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To: tejek who wrote (138381)	7/30/2001 6:23:54 PM
From: TimF	Respond to of 1588372

And if we run out gas and there is no alternative to migrate to right away, we will be a world of hurt. 1 - We have alternatives now they are just more expensive. 2 - Oil will not just run out one day. It will gradually become less available and more expensive. At least the general trend will be relatively gradual. (in the short term price changes can be much quicker, but if its a spike up supply grows and demand shrinks and you get the reverse on a spike down, leading back to the general trend line). As the price goes up it will make economic sense to begin using some of these alternatives and they will be used. The market is a more efficent mechanism for allocating resources among these alternatives then is the government. Tim

To: tejek who wrote (138381)	7/30/2001 9:17:04 PM
From: hmaly	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1588372

Ted. re...Harry, I don't know and neither do you...not for sure in any case. And that's my point...we don't know how things will be in the future. Our science is not that definitive about the future.<<<<<<< While science isn't that definitive, I have never seen science go backwards. In other words, in the future, I would expect there either will be an alternative for oil; or an economical way to produce oil from coal, shale, tar sands; or perhaps animal wastes etc. And if we run out gas and there is no alternative to migrate to right away, we will be a world of hurt.<< Without a major catastrophy such as war, I cannot envision us running out of gas. Gas will become scarcer as reserves run out, and thus more expensive, but run out; never. That was necessary because we got boxed in in terms of heating fuel for the northeast and the midwest. < You mean it was necessary to try to save Al's votes in the northeast. The oil couldn't have been removed, shipped and processed and delivered fast enough to help last winter. Besides, if Al really meant what he said about conservation and alternate fuels, he would have used the opportunity to push his ideas. Instead he copped out. And this is your guy with vision? And what was the Republican Congress doing throughout this crisis......probably spying on Clinton to make sure he wasn't having more sex out of marriage. <<<<<< In true Clintonion fashion, if you don't like the question, change the topic. I don't like your big bang theory....it requires too much pain. Just like are the old biz cycles...boom and bust, boom and bust. There is a smarter way and I prefer it.<<<<<<< And you somehow feel changing over to alternative fuels will be easy and painless. Possible, but highly unlikely at this point. Smarter way? David, Tim and I all described in a way the same scenario. Maybe it is the smarter way; as true capitulation to gas, won't be easy; just as the capitulation in NASDAQ isn't easy because of the big raise in the 90's. But it probably will have to happen to make us move to an alternative. Tied in to your big bang theory; why do we have to have a big bang? Why can't we learn from the errors of our ways? <<<<<<<< Why do we have to have capitulation in stocks before they can start a meaningful rise? Darn if I know; but according to the experts, it has to happen. Same with gas. ONce almost everyone decides to go with the alternative, the alternative will happen. Until then, alternatives will just be a curiosity. I like your attitude...<<<< Thanks, I work at it. It is hard to be optimistic with so many liberals around. its what will insure the demise of the Rep. party as we know it.<<<<< You could be right. Scare tactics and obstructionism could be more popular than optimism, and exploring one choices. But, I wouldn't bet on it.