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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Lane3 who wrote (19852)	7/31/2001 12:10:56 PM
From: thames_sider	Respond to of 82486

outsiders in European countries may not have quite the same expectation of full integration that they do in the US Interesting point... possibly true. Most of historic immigration (going back centuries) was between very similar-looking peoples, often with related languages: and when people travelled so little anyway, a stranger could be someone from two villages away. More recently, the assumption has been that immigrants would quickly adopt language, culture and customs of their new land: this (IMO) has been one more reason for the ostracism of the Jews, not just that they were different but that many chose to remain so... but even with the immigrants of the 60's and 70's, these by-and-large expected to adopt mostly if not entirely 'British' ways of life. The exceptions were mainly the Muslim immigrants - the scions of which are now causing problems, trapped between incompatible cultures... by contrast, Sikhs and Hindus (not to mention blacks or Chinese) have integrated fast and very successfully, retaining their religion but not so 'publicly'. More recently, especially in the UK, there has been much emphasis on retaining at least some 'native' values, allowing multiple languages, etc. I think this is a success in some respects, but it's harder to do without it becoming divisive (especially when such efforts get state support...).