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To: one_less who wrote (20154)	8/1/2001 11:49:30 AM
From: Dayuhan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

Vows and obligations to parents also make premarital sex a violation of significant others. Explain that, if you will. Let's say, hypothetically, that I have an unmarried adult child that chooses to have sex with a consenting partner. How on earth can that be a "violation of significant others"? And what business is it of mine, or yours, anyway?

To: one_less who wrote (20154)	8/1/2001 12:08:34 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

I would call that illicit. It also does not meet my criteria. Vows and obligations to parents also make premarital sex a violation of significant others. In your second example I assume the "kid" to be an adult, since I asked you for adult examples. This would not meet my criteria either assuming some commitment, as you specify, from the offspring to the parent because there is bad faith with the partner and collateral damage to the parent. The simplest resolution to the question about whether something is illicit or not is a marriage declaration. I don't think that's the simplest resolution. You want to use the marriage certificate as a proxy for the principles I've stated, but they're not always the same thing. It's the principles, not the paper, that count. Karen