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To: TobagoJack who wrote (6486)8/2/2001 3:13:31 AM
From: Maurice Winn  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559
 
<The simple answer, when offered, is a false answer.>

Jay, that's true! It's an increasingly complex world. It's now so complex that nobody has got more than a dim idea of what's happening let alone what will happen. But, nevertheless, we are all obliged to stake out our positions to the best of our ability, as always has been the case.

We don't know where we're going but we're on our way! But maybe the answers will be simple. Maybe Alan will print a lot of loot and Japan will too and hey presto, problems all solved. Not so hot for savers who will be heavily diluted, but, Hey! [as they say in the USA], if that's the price of saving the world, the cash holders won't moan will they?

<The adjustment from Now to Next will involve navigation of an interim dark void similar to the gap between Rust-belt and Silicon Glory. I believe the US is on the cusp of a grand inflection point, where the old will have to be phased out and new grasped at. I do not know what the new will be, maybe biotech, possibly nanotech, perhaps space mining or something simpler, like bio-food.>

I think the whole world's zipping around that cusp. My bet is that "All of the Above" is the correct answer for what the new will be. Plus a lot more besides.

We do not have a surplus of people [or the price of them would be falling towards zero, which leads to wars]. We don't have sated needs. We want a LOT more stuff, services and inventions. We are, as always, hot-blooded, hungry, randy, excitable chimpoids who want to have things better for ourselves and families and who love gadgets, toys and totems. It is very good to have the price of people far from zero.

Unfortunately, the price of people is near zero in India, most of Africa and other places too, so there is potential for a lot of mayhem [and there is mayhem due to AIDS in Africa]. But even in many of those places, the value of people has been increasing, though it's far too close to zero for comfort. At least we don't have huge famines these days in boom-bust breeding cycles with genocidal wars thrown in for good measure [other than a few countries of relatively trivial global significance].

China is going gang-busters. Japan seems okay from where I look. Sure, Indonesia is icky, but they were not a significant economy in global terms anyway. Russia imploded and that affected few outside. India is on a slow road and I can't see them copying China's progress any time soon; they are still essentially Marxist - which is funny because they got rid of the British and kept the worst aspect of the British. Hong Kong got rid of the British but kept the money!

The best place to put money is not in Aztec Gold, nor fiat money on a magnetic disk [which can be badly affected by magnetic fields and maybe computer bugs], nor industrial age stocks, nor in land, buildings or other anachronisms of stone age and industrial age chimpoids. The best place is to swap that artifact of the 20th century, fiat money, which is a relic of a time when money was backed by tangible goods, for ownership of those companies which are going to produce the other side of the cusp.

I would have suggested Globalstar, but I seemed to run into a slight problem with that. Message 16158860 Which shows the risk of the new stuff, even after huge investigations. So, avoid companies like Globalstar, but buy companies like QUALCOMM, which zoomed bigger and better than any company in human history in the space of 12 months in terms of total value added from a starting point of about $3bn market capitalisation at the beginning of 1999. The trick is to know which is which. I inspected them closely and ended up owning the best company ever in 1999 and the worst company ever in 2000 [though JDS Uniphase is in competition for worst ever and it certainly had a bigger loss at $50 billion than anything].

If you can pick those which will form the other side of the cusp, you will be part of the new non-chimpoid world. The digital divide is going to increase, not decrease and it's going to lead to chimpoids remaining, like Neanderthals, in some evolutionary backwater, while the others go on to the shining light at the end of the dark void you mentioned. No, it is NOT a train coming this way.

I am not making this up as I go. Well, not completely anyway.

There is 'is' and there is 'what will be'. [Depending on your definition of 'is', which is tricky in the USA]. The important thing to do is be 'is' after 'what will be' has arrived. Which is kind of obvious, but that's what we are trying to do. Most people just cower like a frightened rabbit and hope they can stay as they are [which isn't an option when evolution comes through in the form of the four horses of the apocalypse]. Some do a maniacal leap into that dark void you mentioned, with a vision of what will be, only to go splat down a sinkhole. Others feel their way carefully along in the dark, looking for little clues which flicker in the gloom, but knowing they can't go back and that soon, what will be is. If they get it right, they will be cool dudes! New Paradigm Cool Dude Chimpoids in the bright new dawn on the other side of the cusp.

Mqurice



To: TobagoJack who wrote (6486)8/2/2001 11:32:34 AM
From: GraceZ  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 74559
 
savings are much lower

Saving rate is low in the US because of the way they measure savings. What really matters is net worth.

net worth is decreasing

Do you have a link that shows this? The baby boomers parents are passing away. Numerous friends of mine who have lived their whole lives beyond their means are now inheriting the assets that their parents spent a lifetime building. (my parents were not so thoughtful and didn't acquire any) Which means that their net worth took a jump skyward even while their 401ks are down 20-30%. Plus their houses are appreciating even beyond the home equity lines of credit.

the world ex-USA is sinking in a synchronized and bubble energized fashion

For lots of different reasons. Asia is too dependant on exports, Europe is still mired in socialist policies, South and Central America has terrible financial controls, The former Soviet Union is taken over by thugs and Africa is being destroyed by AIDs. What else is new.

. I think the money is shortly going to where it has been spiraling towards, what CB describes as money heaven,

The thing everyone losses sight of is that as stock prices fall stocks become more valuable.

pretty well pinned in place by the FED rate cuts

The FF rate matters less than the amount and size of the repros and coupon passes. The Fed has put a rising floor of money under the market. The real problems will occur as we start to recover because that's when inflation will rear it's ugly head.

The Nasdaq has really only given up the peaking spike (3000 points), and have yet to regurgitate all the previous bubbly froth (another 500-1000, depending on policy

The index is deceptive. While the Naz is busy taking out the trash and some companies stock runs to zero, there is very positive money going into those companies deemed survivors. This money has NOT shown up in price appreciation yet. Primarily because the public is still selling them down. Traders are still being rewarded for selling. Meanwhile the institutional money moving in is slowly but surely soaking up supply.

The market cap weighted average decline is poisoning the equity backing for corporate and consumer loans

Those that need to borrow can't and those that are able to borrow don't want to. C&I loans are down even though M2 is rising.

Some folks may argue with my vision of real estate price decline, in which case they will either have to concede that massive inflation could take place, or convince themselves that the FED can indeed steer the economy and make porridge not to hot and not too cold. I think these folks final education will be a bitter one.

The Fed has voted in favor of inflating us out of this hole. They are thinking we're back in 1998 and the Asian crisis will keep a lid on inflation. The money pumped into the economy has to show up somewhere. It'll show up in asset prices or consumer prices. It seems to be showing up in both places. The excesses in Northern California real estate are being unwound now. Except for pockets where demand always outstrips supply, housing inflation in this country was held down for quite a while after the S&L crisis and only started to show up significantly in the last five years. Real estate is not leveraged to the extent it was during the S&L crisis. Of course this could change if we see unemployment rise significantly.

Whatever one buys now will more likely go down rather than up in the interim.

There is always something to buy the way there is always something to sell. The question is, is the risk to reward ratio high enough to get out of cash?

There is nothing to buy now. The onset of inflation, deflation, stagnation, recession or explosion is all more tolerable as long as one has cash

I heard this a year ago and yet 40% of the companies 100 million or more market cap are up over 15% in the last year.



To: TobagoJack who wrote (6486)8/2/2001 7:56:02 PM
From: Ilaine  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559
 
Re: Joe Six Pack. As of 2001:Q1, personal savings are up. Disposable personal income is up. Bank deposits are up - checking accounts are up, savings accounts are up, CDs are up, money market accounts are up.

Net worth is down because security prices are down. If you back out securities prices, net worth is up.

J6P's balance sheet for 2001:Q1 is better than 1999:Q3.