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To: Blaine K who wrote (489)	8/3/2001 9:05:47 PM
From: leagel	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 543

I'll respond this once but I'm not going to waste my time preaching to someone whose Catholic paranoia seems to outweigh that which is ascribed to us Jews. I honestly didn't know about the Rabbi of Rome and I'm not sure if it's true or not. Other than my interest in it as a historical fact, I don't think it tells me anything. Many people said things in those days to save their necks and the necks of their people. Am I agreeing with you when you say Pius basically did the same thing? No, there is a difference in my opinion. Despite everything you say about the "small principality", the fact is that the Pope was, even while surrounded by fascism, one of the most powerful men in the world, whether that is measured by followers, money, resources, or by capacity to lead, ability to get the word out, etc., etc. Dismissing what was NOT done to save people who could be saved by stating that he was one man against the hostile armies is absurd. Of course, he is not going to lead the charge against the tanks, ala Tinamen Square or Yelstin, although others have done the same with less power and resources. Others with less at their disposal have turned the tide of battle and history. Yet, IF he had used his power and resources as we both know he could have, the history of that day would be greatly different. OK - now for Catholic bashing - I'm not anti-Catholic and my first line is something you should read and analyze in that vein. You can't compare the suffering of holocaust survivors and their families to anything else in history. I don't get any consolation from that. As Sgt. Friday says in a bit of my ironic moronic response, "no brag, just fact." That I can even joke or smile when talking about the deaths of six million is a testament to 60 years of history. None of us will rest in the face of revisionism no matter how pleasant the face.

To: Blaine K who wrote (489)	8/5/2001 6:49:25 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 543

<Catholic-kicking is the only religious-baiting still smiled upon by polite society > [I know I'm not polite society to some people [maybe most] but to me I am so I have to disagree]. Name the religion and I'll bait it for you, though Buddhists, Bahais and a few tranquil types seem harmless enough. Mostly though, religion is about some guy getting power, the money and the girls [or, in the Catholic case, the priests get the boys]. How many religions have women as the boss for example? Many religious Jews are criminal cranks too! Look at the ethnic cleansing they did in Palestine for a start. Having suffered ethnic cleansing, you'd think Jews would be the last to indulge it. Zionism is the face of evil [if Zionism means the creation of a state which has superstition as the driving force]. Religions, being based on superstition and imaginary fantasies with no foundation in reality are inherently bad. A kind of Santa Claus for grown-ups. They do establish sensible rules for living in most cases, which is not a bad idea, but as far as the mystical mumbo jumbo goes, it's mostly a force for evil. They seem determined always to take power over other people and are always either burning witches at the stake, flying to Hale-Bopp, drinking cyanide in Jonestown, ethnically cleansing the heathens and generally conducting murder and mayhem or at least taking the money and power for themselves. Many of them seem to have a strong sexual orientation too and girls [and even life girl sacrifices] figure prominently. Best to convert to reality instead of superstition. Some people convert to beer, which I don't recommend either, either jet-engine cooled or CFC-cooled. Mqurice