To: Blaine K who wrote (497 ) 8/6/2001 1:23:17 AM From: Maurice Winn Respond to of 543 Well, I guess we've both used up the wild generalisations. Okay, uncle, maybe not ALL religious people kill and not ALL Jewish people ethnically cleanse and not all atheists are genocidal, totalitarian power maniacs. So, we end up with a kind of muddle where individuals do what they decide to do at the time they decide to do it, for the reasons they decide to do it, which is about all we say about the situation. Actually, my father was NOT fighting for his King or his God. Not even for his country though that would have been nearer to the truth. His primary belief was for freedom and humanitarian attitudes. My parents opposed the monarchy and my mother was president of the Rationalists Association. Atheists have to be good in THIS life because we can't get absolution or forgiveness and still go on to eternal heaven. This is NOT a rehearsal for us. We have to make it good in the here and now. You don't need to be scared of my kind. I don't go around ordering you want to do, whether you have to stand, kneel, wear a face-covering, whether you can buy petrol on a Sunday or anything else. You can do what you like which doesn't involve damaging other people as far as my kind are concerned. It's the domineering types who love power hierarchies who are the lethal ones because they are still living the chimpanzee lifestyle where there are rulers and a pecking order with property and lives merely things to be confiscated if wanted to serve the rulers. I consider it immoral to abdicate your own mind to a higher authority because there is no higher authority. We might take advice from others we trust but to mindlessly do a higher authorities bidding leads to disaster. Look what happened to you when you abdicated your investment mind to my outrageous persuasion that Globalstar would undergo a conversion to Wacky Wireless. See? Investors and everyone should run their own minds and to their own self be true. Who is the arrogant person who presumes to act as interpreter if there is a gathering of Gods for the multitude of religions up there in cyberspace somewhere? It really is absurd to think that some other person has the word on a special hotline and they can tell you what the big fella is thinking [which is usually "He told me to tell you to give me your money, kneel down when I tell you, do what I tell you and I get to have that spunky chick, purely for religious reasons you understand"]. What's amazing is that people believe that these church bosses really do have the word! Sure, I believe that Irwin Jacobs has the word and he really can breach the laws of physics with his cunning photonic phragmenter. But I've seen the phones and they work even though I have no idea why [well only a superficial understanding of the working]. But believing things we don't understand, when there is good reason to think that person has the word, is different from believing that somebody has got a prayer hotline to heaven. Mqurice