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To: John Hensley who wrote (11770)	8/7/2001 4:27:03 PM
From: sfh	Respond to of 13091

(sort of off-topic) classic case of "we mess up, you pay". had to pay a real estate lawyer extra when they messed up on closing (this was buried in fine print). when i cooperated w/ another govt. agency years ago on terms that i would be notified if a problem were found with an investment, found out only after business closed down and i was out virtually all $ (and agency did not notify me - i read about it in the news). freedom of information is more like "we are free to give you the information if we want to" - ugh! still curious as to 3000 gph - is that hound still sniffing around charleston? :-)

To: John Hensley who wrote (11770)	8/7/2001 6:58:53 PM
From: Charles A. King	Respond to of 13091

I find all this quite interesting since the primary basis for stopping trading was because of false press releases (which were apparently approved by GRNO's lawyer) and the machine didn't even work (and this is apparently highly doubtful if we believe the latest developments). While I am sure the data collected by the government is quite extensive, I don't think any of us would spend the money required to possess it. As a substitute, I suggest you read past posts right here on SI. The following is an excerpt. What conclusion would any rational person draw from these circumstances, except that Bill knows that the processor will not work as promised? Filtration equipment has been deliberately torn out of the system and has not been replaced by anything, leading to the question of whether or not a working processor would even be able to make saleable fuel. Message 12701586 It might be of some interest to see what has been going on behind the scenes, but I prefer to use the information that has already been provided free. In fact, the next post was addressed to you. Also I have learned that the original fuel oil filtering system (fuller's earth) never has worked properly (always failed at flow rates above about 175 gph) and has been removed. I have had several explanations given to me about the consequence for fuel quality, some of them contradictory, so I am unwilling to speculate. The real solution is hydrogenation instead of filters, a process with the added benefit of removing most of the sulfur, so the product can be sold as #1 diesel fuel. Cost to buy and install: about $250K. Message 13038603 In short, it depends on what you define as "working". Yes, it functioned, but not as it should have. Without seeing the government's case, I can only speculate why we have seen no profits from the previous 2 years of high petroleum prices, based on posts on SI. There may be other interesting posts on the plant's operation, these are just two that come to mind.

To: John Hensley who wrote (11770)	8/7/2001 7:14:23 PM
From: NW_Trader	Respond to of 13091

Hi John, If you've been at this for a while, this may not be news, however as one who has fought the FOIA battles, I'd suggest the following. First review the agency's rules for FOIA implementation (should be in the CFRs) or request a copy of them. Then focus and summarize what you're interested in (lots of billable hours can go into a search of records just to see if something exists). Finally, if you can identify a public benefit reason for your request, ask that the fees be waived in the public interest (often is done for not for profit requesters - i.e., not newspapers). Use the agency's regulations and cite them in your request. The first hurdle in any FOIA request is invoking the magic verbiage that requires action by the agency - realize that there is an established procedure and time frame that the agency must follow when FOIA is invoked. However certain matters are privileged under the act and if what you are looking for falls within one of those reasons (or appears to), you'll get denied. There is an appeal procedure (not expensive, but often futile) as well as recourse to court (expensive and sometimes futile). Internal agency advice and deliberations and matters protected by the Privacy Act are routinely denied. Good luck. Peace and Justice --- Patrick