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To: andreas_wonisch who wrote (50318)	8/8/2001 10:29:09 AM
From: wanna_bmw	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

Anand seemed to have had both his share of pleasures and pains from his experience. While he admits that problems were almost a certainty, he was able to wade through them without too much difficulty. (After all, would you expect anything else from the owner of one of the most successful computer enthusiast web pages?) In the end, he seemed pleased with performance, which is a pretty good endorsement to AMD, since that is where they aim to excel at this point in time. This may go as proof for some folk that many small businesses that have staff with an expertise in hardware should find a lot of value in a system based off of dual Athlons. And this goes double for Anand, who found such a server in the popular space-saving 1U package. However, with even the minor problems that Anand had to deal with, I doubt any medium or large sized businesses would want to bother. Most companies expect a product such as a server to work perfectly out of the box. If it doesn't, that's what tier-1 support is for, which is why AMD should still aim to get at least one design win from the top 5 OEMs. wanna_bmw

To: andreas_wonisch who wrote (50318)	8/8/2001 3:51:31 PM
From: Ali Chen	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 275872

"Behind AnandTech - APPRO's 1124 760MP Server" This kid probably will never grow up. The whole "review" is so blatantly amateurish. Look, for example, at this nonsense: "Cooling is a major issue for this platform and in a 1U chassis that is less than 2" high, the issue is even more serious. There isn't enough headroom for a regular sized heatsink, much less one with a fan mounted on it. Because of this, the 1124 also implements a custom made cooling solution to not only circulate air through the extremely small case, but to also cool the dual Athlon MP processors." This guy apparently never saw a 4U Xeon 4-way server, where 1/2 of the case was dedicated to three air ducts made of high-density styrofoam, each channel stuffed with three (!) high-speed fan in sequence, like in airplane turbines!!! Now talk about "major heat issues"!! Pathetic. -Ali

To: andreas_wonisch who wrote (50318)	8/9/2001 12:55:20 AM
From: milo_morai	Respond to of 275872

TY4TURL, I love the opening In all honesty, most of us at AnandTech expected the Dual Xeon platform to outperform the Dual Athlon MP in our database server tests from our 760MP review. Although database server environments do benefit from more and faster CPUs, if you ignore the memory and I/O on a database server regardless of how fast your CPUs are, you’re going to have a poorly performing solution. In database serving environments, especially ones as data intensive as the AnandTech Forums Database which is currently over 3GB in size, moving data around quickly is key to high server performance. The Intel Xeon’s i860 chipset provided a 400MHz data bus from the CPU to the Memory Controller Hub (MCH), offering 3.2GB/s of bandwidth to the dual processors, and the MCH also offered a dual channel RDRAM memory controller offering an equal 3.2GB/s of bandwidth to the memory. To make the platform even more attractive, the i860’s MCH includes a small cache to improve performance as well. In spite of all of this, when placed in the very environment of our AnandTech Forums Database Server, a Dual Intel Xeon 1.7GHz system was outperformed by an identical Dual Athlon MP 1.2GHz setup. And thus came the following conclusion to our 760MP review back in June: