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To: fyodor_ who wrote (50441)	8/8/2001 9:31:43 PM
From: Jim McMannis	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

Btw, what's considered average IQ these days? 110? 120? I thought it was 100...which means GW and GHW Bush are below average. Rather hard to believe despite GW thinking too fast for his speech. Jim

To: fyodor_ who wrote (50441)	8/9/2001 10:46:52 AM
From: jamok99	Respond to of 275872

Fyodor, - a bit OT <<Btw, what's considered average IQ these days? 110? 120?>> The average IQ has always been 100, since the inception of standardized intelligence testing. Since the companies that publish such test periodically update the normed reference group, the average scaled score remains constant, while the average raw score may vary, depending on how well people in the society score overall at a given time. Kind of like a 'curve' scoring system. That applies within the test itself, as compensation for age is made by basing scaled scores (i.e., the score assigned to a given raw score) on comparisons to a given reference group (e.g., all the scores included in the age 44-55 group, as opposed to comparing those scores to the aggregate of all age groups).While many in the public dismiss IQ as a questionable concept, I think that's often a mistaken impression based on prejudice or a misunderstanding of the process. While it is true that some abilities, such as creativity, are not well conceptualized or measured per se, the most accepted and standardized intelligence tests(Wechsler Adult Intelligence Scale, Wechler Intelligence Scale for Children), use a multi-dimensional approach, using different subtests to measure different kinds of intellectual abilities (e.g., attention, concentration, vocabulary knowledge, non-verbal reasoning, etc.) that do give, I think, a fair overall assessment of one's abilities. Of course, the commonly held idea that the number itself is the point is misunderstood - the usefulness ofthe data often lies in the interpretive skill of the tester, in terms of interpreting what the patterns of subtest scores mean in terms of how this person would likely be to perform in the real world, given their measured areas of intellectual strengths and vulnerabilities. Bet that's more than you wanted to know ;-) Jamok