To: American Spirit who wrote (169153 ) 8/8/2001 11:21:50 PM From: Gordon A. Langston Respond to of 769667 The press is just unhappy about not being able to go to Kennebunkport. Crawford is like spring training to NFL pros. not enjoyable. Hard to give a tax break to those who do not pay and then there's always the issue of who creates jobs, certainly not the poor. How many jobs have you created? Even if you count government jobs it's still the rich that create them or at least more of them. Or do you still think we're burying gold in the back yard? That you have any regard for IQ over real life accomplishments is disturbing. IQ's of Nazi leaders tried for war crimes from a letter to me by Grady Towers dated April 13, 199 Used with permission from the author In 1945, an army psychologist named G.M. Gilbert, was allowed to examine the Nazi leaders who were tried at Nuremberg for war crimes. Among other tests, a German version of the Wechsler-Bellevue was administered. Here are the results: 1 Hjalmar Schacht 143 2 Arthur Seyss-Inquart 141 3 Hermann Goering 138 4 Karl Doenitz 138 5 Franz von Papen 134 6 Eric Raeder 134 7 Dr. Hans Frank 130 8 Hans Fritsche 130 9 Baldur von Schirach 130 10 Joachim von Ribbentrop 129 11 Wilhelm Keitel 129 12 Albert Speer 128 13 Alfred Jodl 127 14 Alfred Rosenberg 127 15 Constantin von Neurath 125 16 Walther Funk 124 17 Wilhelm Frick 124 18 Rudolf Hess 120 19 Fritz Sauckel 118 20 Ernst Kaltenbrunner 113 21 Julius Streicher 106 You may find these data in The Nuremberg Mind: The Psychology of the Nazi Leaders by Florence R. Miale and Michael Selzer, as well as in The Reich Marshal: A Biography of Hermann Goering by Leonard Mosley. Notice that there is a clear correlation of IQ with social status. Notice, as I've pointed out before, that success in the practical socio-econimc sense usually goes to those with IQs between 125 and 150. And finally, notice that there are no towering IQs in the 150 plus range, as one would expect from theoreticians. None of these men were original thinkers. What was Hitler's IQ? We will never know for sure, but we can guess that it wasn't much different from those at the top of this list. He wasn't an original thinker either.