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To: Lane3 who wrote (21049)	8/9/2001 7:52:56 AM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

I agree, an ordinary staff meeting is neither the time nor place. Ashcroft's sessions are set apart from that, as I understand it. I am not sure of the Cabinet meeting. I don't think it is quite like an ordinary staff meeting, and it could be justified on the analogy of the invocation before Senate sessions. I doubt that I would do it, and I would be probably be quizzical, but I am not sure it is out of line......

To: Lane3 who wrote (21049)	8/9/2001 10:09:53 AM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

Who cannot appreciate the beauty of a PERSONAL expression of religion? The breaking of the glass at a Jewish wedding ceremony? The canopy (which is a lovely idea, imo). The rights of passage of a Bar Mitzvah, or Bat Mitzvah as well as confirmations are charming. And who could be stupid enough not to see the onerous and demeaning aspect of PUBLIC religious observances, to those of different, or agnostic or atheist beliefs? There is no nobility nor anything aesthetically pleasing in exclusionary practices, whether you use God to exclude or some more human agent. There is nothing beautiful in making people wonder if there jobs are in danger if they do not bow before a religious idea they do not embrace. That is ugly. It is unworthy of any decent God that such things should happen in his or her name. It is, of course, all too human.