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To: TimF who wrote (21156)	8/9/2001 1:25:20 PM
From: jlallen	Respond to of 82486

Whiney boy is not concerned with facts, just his thin skinned, thin lipped, humorless feelings. JLA

To: TimF who wrote (21156)	8/9/2001 1:53:10 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

I think it was you, Tim, who was asking for some good news. Well, here's some on the subject of movies. Isn't it a sad commentary that the newspaper would choose that particular statement as it's headline? Horror film 'The Others' puts suspense above gore <<"I wanted to do more of a classical horror film, with more suspense than gore. That's something that's missing today in the genre," Amenábar said. "It's a gap I'm trying to fill.">> azstarnet.com

To: TimF who wrote (21156)	8/10/2001 5:57:53 PM
From: Win Smith	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 82486

Tim, just for amusement, I looked up the origin of the "every sperm is sacred" doctrine, which in true historical Catholic fashion dates all the way back to 1930. IV. VICES OPPOSED TO CHRISTIAN MARRIAGE And now, Venerable Brethren, We shall explain in detail the evils opposed to each of the benefits of matrimony. First consideration is due the offspring, which many have the audacity to call the disagreeable burden of matrimony and which they say is to be carefully avoided by married people not through virtuous continence (which Christian law permits in matrimony when both parties consent) but by frustrating the marriage act. Some justify this criminal abuse on the ground that they are weary of children and wish to gratify their desires without their consequent burden. Others say that they cannot on the one hand remain continent nor on the other can they have children because of the difficulties, whether on the part of the mother or on the part of family circumstances.[1] But no reason, however grave, may be put forward by anything intrinsically against nature may become conformable to nature and morally good. Since, therefore, the conjugal act is destined primarily by nature for the begetting of children, those who in exercising it deliberately frustrate its natural power and purpose, sin against nature, and commit a deed which is shameful and intrinsically vicious. Small wonder, therefore, if Holy Writ bears witness that the Divine Majesty regards with greatest detestation this horrible crime, and at times has punished it with death. As St. Augustine notes, "Intercourse even with one's legitimate wife is unlawful and wicked where the conception of the offspring is prevented. Onan, the son of Judah, did this and the Lord killed him for it."[2] Since, therefore, openly departing from the uninterrupted Christian tradition, some recently have adjudged it possible solemnly to declare another doctrine regarding this question, the Catholic Church, to whom God has entrusted the defense of the integrity and the purity of morals, standing erect in the midst of the moral ruin which surrounds her,[3] in order that she may preserve the chastity of the nuptial union from being defiled by this foul stain, raises her voice in token of her divine ambassadorship and through Our mouth proclaims anew: any use whatsoever of matrimony exercised in such a way that the act is deliberately frustrated in its natural power to generate life is an offense against the law of God and of nature, and those who indulge in such are branded with the guilt of a grave sin. ENCYCLICAL LETTER OF HIS HOLINESS PIUS XI on: CHASTITY IN MARRIAGE (also known as CASTI CONNUBII) Dated Vatican City, 31 December 1930. iol.ie I think it would be a reasonable to paraphrase this as "if a sperm is wasted, God will be quite irate.".