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To: AK2004 who wrote (50545)	8/9/2001 6:08:47 PM
From: kapkan4u	Respond to of 275872

API quits Alpha work to concentrate on HT. siliconstrategies.com

To: AK2004 who wrote (50545)	8/9/2001 6:14:48 PM
From: Petz	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

SpeedStep in DELL notebooks -- NOT! theinquirer.net Summary: In addition to Windows XP not having Intel SpeedStep support, Andrew Thomas finds out that the some Inspiron 8000's do not and never will support SpeedStep, even though they were advertised from the get-go to support it. Says Chris [McFaul - from the UK]: "Thanks a lot for your help, but I have since found out that actually Dell notebooks don’t properly support SpeedStep, they can only change clock speed at boot. I couldn’t find a mention of this on the Dell website and I am actually quite annoyed since I rarely re-boot but frequently change from battery to ac and back again so the true SpeedStep would be useful and it would have been nice to be told this before buying it! "I have updated to the latest BIOS… It now actually states that you have to reboot to change processor speeds, which it didn’t before. Very naughty of Dell if you ask me, it's all very well advertising SpeedStep, but if it doesn’t actually work properly you have to wonder…" Reading on, we find out that current Inspiron 8000's DO support SpeedStep, but I still find it strange that the most recent BIOS that Chris updated explicitly warned that speed can only be changed by rebooting. Does the new BIOS recognize the chipset and only offer that message to the earlier models? It transpires that in a mad rush to get PIII notebooks to market last year, the hardware behemoth hastily cobbled together its Inspirons and Latitudes using a desktop chipset, the 815E, which - not surprisingly - lacked any SpeedStep features. Only when the proper mobile-aware 815EM arrived a few months later did the products gain full SpeedStep functionality. So if you're the lucky owner of one of the early machines and want SpeedStep - tough. Petz

To: AK2004 who wrote (50545)	8/9/2001 6:35:34 PM
From: Petz	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 275872

I can't diagree more about the positive effect that a "P4 is slower than Athlon" campaign could have. 1. AMD has NEVER marketed to consumers -- all past "campaigns" were so low-budget that their effect was zero. So we can't judge the effect of a good campaign on consumers from the past attempts 2. The SDRAM P4 vs. Palomino may well result in benchmarks that are skewed an average of 20 to 30% in favor of Athlon. It is possible that not a single benchmark in use today will run faster on a 2 GHz P4 with SDRAM than it does on a 1.5 GHz Palomino with DDR. There was an evaluation recently of Palomino performance on SSE-optimized benchmarks and it blew away the P4 on everything -- and THAT was when the P4 used Rambus. 3. If Intel surprises us and almost immediately allows use of DDR with the i845 (a possibility raised here: theinquirer.net, THEN I would reconsider. 4. Intel will not respond in kind. Their advertising is set in concrete for the next 6 months, and by then AMD's splurge will be over. They would never, ever, mention an AMD product by name. Anyway, AMD can put something like the following into a magazine ad: "The Content Creation benchmark used in this comparison was developed by Ziff Davis corporation, which is partially owned by Intel Corporation." Ditto for nearly every other benchmark! IMO, AMD has a stellar opportunity for a huge marketing campaign. The street already expects a loss. The effect on the stock of a (0.10) loss vs. a (0.05) loss would be miniscule. Unlike Scumbria, I do believe that a PR-rating would be counterproductive. Petz