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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (50565)8/9/2001 7:52:29 PM
From: kapkan4uRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 275872
 
<So you'd advocate publishing a false clock speed just to prove that clock speeds have little relation to actual performance? I don't think even Steve Jobs would resort to this level of deceit.>

There is no deceit. The footnote explains everything. The deceit is to have a dog for a CPU with a 2.0GHz label on it, like P4 has.

Kap



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (50565)8/9/2001 9:02:55 PM
From: Gopher BrokeRead Replies (4) | Respond to of 275872
 
So you'd advocate publishing a false clock speed just to prove that clock speeds have little relation to actual performance? I don't think even Steve Jobs would resort to this level of deceit.

So what proportion of a processor has to use the external clock for it to be considered running at that speed? With the P4, Intel have established that you can run parts of the processor slower than the external clock and still claim that external clock as the speed.

What is to stop AMD clocking a little internal divider at 3 GHz and drive the CPU off the resulting 1.5 GHz signal? I don't see that would be "resorting to a level of deceit". It would simply be illustrating that to judge a processor by external clock speed is meaningless and it would force Intel to admit it.



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (50565)8/10/2001 1:22:58 PM
From: Charles RRespond to of 275872
 
Tenchusatsu,

<So you'd advocate publishing a false clock speed just to prove that clock speeds have little relation to actual performance? I don't think even Steve Jobs would resort to this level of deceit.>

I share this view. Using "GHz", in my mind, would be crossing the line on defensible advertising. But I think the problem can easily be solved - as long as major OEMs are willing to accept whatever scheme that AMD proposes.

Chuck



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (50565)8/10/2001 1:47:12 PM
From: PetzRead Replies (2) | Respond to of 275872
 
A 2 GHz P4 does absolutely nothing on 30% of it's clock cycles. It is waiting for data from memory, or waiting for the decoder to become free, or something else. Is it ethical to say it's a 2 GHz P4, when it's running at 0 Hz 30% of the time?

Petz