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Politics : Right Wing Extremist Thread -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Father Terrence who wrote (13963)8/10/2001 5:29:24 PM
From: Neocon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 59480
 
There was a fairly long period of time when Palestinian Arabs and Jews lived peacefully, and when there was even discussion of a "binational" (what we might call bi- ethnic) state to come after the British Mandatory authorities. However, the increasing desperation of some Jewish factions, in trying to rescue Jews from the Nazis, and the fact that key Arab figures, like the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, expressed pro- Nazi sentiments, took that option off the table. It is pretty certain that during the War of Independence the Arab powers, confident of victory, advised the Palestinians to flee (temporarily). It is also fairly certain that a faction of the Irgun (a Jewish para- military group) committed some atrocities. In any event, after that, relations between the refugees and the Jewish Israelis were poisoned, although those Palestinian Arabs who maintained residence were afforded full citizenship.

In any event, Israel had the misfortune of being founded during an era of Pan- Arab nationalism, and the Palestinians became the one thing that the various Arab powers could be sure to rally around. Instead of assimilating them into the surrounding Arab societies, they intentionally maintained the refugee camps, to ensure that the issue remained heated.

The PLO was founded in 1965, not even 20 years after the War of Independence, and from the start pursued a policy of terrorism, which hardened the feelings of the Israeli public on the question.

The Israelis developed the country, and many of their families have now been in the country for several generations. They are not leaving, because they are not an occupying force. The status of the Palestinian territories remains in the hands of the Palestinians, to the extent that, as long as they are perceived as a major security risk, the occupation will not end, and when they are cooperative, it will........



To: Father Terrence who wrote (13963)8/10/2001 5:46:13 PM
From: TimF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 59480
 
They may not have the most power if the rest of Islam decides to strike against them...

"The rest of Islam" is not in position to strike against them. Many Islamic countries are far away.

Egypy has recognized Israel, and while it is possible that they could go back on it they got their land back all ready and they won't benefit much by attacking Israel. Saudi wouldn't want to take the risk and besides they have a weak army. Iran would have to go through Iraq, not likely. Pakistan is even further away. Lebanon is not a significant military concern. Yemen is far away and reasonably weak. Turkey would not get involved and is anyway on the other side of Iraq. Bahrain or the UAE are not going to invade Israel. The Islamic nations in Africa besides Egypt are too far away, to weak, or both.

What reasonably likely coalition do you see striking against Israel? Iraq, and Syria? Israel is more powerful.

Tim