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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (21457)8/11/2001 7:41:43 AM
From: Lane3  Respond to of 82486
 
THAT question could start a nuclear civil war among them!

I think that Jews naturally gravitated toward the civil rights movement because they understood what it was to be an excluded minority. As the movement developed, I think that Jews expected blacks to model their movement along the lines of the Anti Defamation League but the blacks wanted to do it their way and came to resent the guidance, thus the split.

They are a religion, not a racial group.

I'm no expert, but Jewish identity is about both religion and ethnicity. Non-practicing Jews are still Jews. In the north before the civil rights movement, discrimination was against Irish, Italians, Polish, and Jews. There were covenants to keep all of them out. It wasn't primarily about religion. It was directed against all major immigrant groups.

Right from the start it appeared to be a resurrection of racial discrimination with new targets.


I don't think so. Early in the movement, companies, for example, would say that they had no black workers because none applied for jobs, not because they were discriminating in hiring. Blacks said that they didn't bother to apply because they knew they weren't welcome. Affirmative action meant that companies couldn't use that as an excuse. They were required to take affirmative action to attract black candidates. It did not mean that they had to hire them, only consider them. I found that quite benign although the slope definitely got very slippery very fast. I do not consider benign what happened after that. I think that the Jews had the better approach.

Karen