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To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (2725)	8/13/2001 12:02:00 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 23908

As I said, Israel is a stratocracy whose worst enemy is PEACE. The Israeli establishment doesn't have the slightest interest in fostering peace with its Arab neighbors --so long as their country enjoys superior, unmatched military capabilities What utter bullcrap. Israel's high-tech economy is poised to lead economic growth and prosperity in the Middle East, if only they could normalize relations with their neighbors. The last seven years, when some normalization occurred, were the most prosperous Israel has ever seen. Returning to the garrison state is not prosperous for Israel. It is the weak and illegitimate Arab regimes who would be endangered by the loss of the "Zionist entity" as a bogeyman. There is not one Arab democracy, may I remind you. The more their street demonstrates against the Jews, the less it will demonstrate against its own leaders.

To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (2725)	8/13/2001 1:12:37 PM
From: TimF	Respond to of 23908

Right now, out of five million comprising Israeli society, there are 800,000 active military personnel, 150,000 of whom constitute the regular cadre of the armed forces, while 150,000 are paramilitary forces and 500'000 comprise an organized reserve force that has a military code, fighting units and periodic training. That would mean that there are 300,000 active military personnel, or maybe slightly more if you count the reserve forces that are temporarily active for training or other purposes. Most of the 500,000 will not be active military personnel at any particular time unless Israel is fully mobilized for war. Tim

To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (2725)	8/14/2001 3:33:26 PM
From: Thomas M.	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 23908

Not just Israelis. In fact more than Israelis, the diaspora relies critically on the existance of Israel and it's constant wars as a rallying cry. Of the tiny minority of diaspora Jews who oppose Israel's racist policies, most find themselves suddenly becoming ardent Zionists whenever a war pops up. Then, when the war ends, they go back to being reasonable. The Warburgs that I quoted earlier are a great example of this. Tom