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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (7140)	8/15/2001 12:43:42 AM
From: TobagoJack	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

Hi Maurice, <<roll back financial collapses!>> We have barely, and only just, held back the determined barbarian attacks by implementing the widely anticipated, least imaginative, most drastic, irresponsibly sustained, and fastest successive series of FED rate cuts ever in history. Still, the economy and the markets do not improve. In the meantime, the balance sheets of the nations, states, municipalities, corporations and individuals continue to deteriorate, with no end in sight and no bottom in view. The final three-pronged attack is being prepared against the center with grim efficiency and murderous determination, aided by on-line credit application and off-rocker mentality that believe in the unbelievable. The defenders are conditioned to trust that (a) there will be a V-shaped recovery tomorrow, now that it is no longer yesterday; (b) trade deficit does not matter; (c) debt overload does no harm; and (d) Uncle Greenspankie and Sam will make matters OK. The final attack could involve a shock troop attack softening down the Dollar or a serious Debt explosion deep within a nation, a corporation or a even a fund. The follow-on attacks will most likely involve the simultaneous Deflationary ‘cratering’ of the real estate funding bubble and the final bleeding of gushing hope from the quiescent population. The exact scenario does not even matter given the weakened state of the defending infrastructure and inadequate cash and FED rate ammunition supply. Any brightening of hope in the interim is just a fatally toxic fantasy wrapped in shimmering hope tied with comforting propaganda presented on a platter of official deceit. Swallow the fantasy, financial suicide results. Now, should the cataclysm be unobstructed, a new dawn may arrive sooner. We must lead the village idiots to the volcanic abyss of Inflation or the black hole of Deflation, to be sacrificed to the gods of work, thrift, family and savings. I am being optimistic and am of course assuming that all the market noise and propaganda smoke is not in fact camouflaging an inflection point connecting Silicon Glory to an as yet unknown “next abracadabra”, as the Rust Belt was once transformed into Silicon Glory but accompanied by much dying anguish and birthing pain. I could be wrong about everything, even about the fact that I was ever born, and in my saner moments, I hope I am wrong. I hope tomorrow is not The Day, and that all speculators will have an opportunity to seek redemption and change their ways towards the gods of work, thrift, family, and knowledge, and forsake the idol of effortless wealth. You know humans as well as I do, if not better, and so you can guess at the odds of J6P awakening from his dream walk in time, before he falls down the steps in Uncle Al’s temple. Hey, how about that, you do know … the myth and the fantasy ... … <<Green$pan … having reduced the irrationally exuberant back to the daily grind … is boring but more productive than millions … guzzling champagne>> Again, save yourself before it is too late. It is not too late now, because we are not even done with the prologue of the script yet. Your exuberance is lighting up this dark den of ours, as we patiently wait for the BBQ grill to reach a good searing temperature :0) Chugs, Jay

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (7140)	8/15/2001 2:17:21 AM
From: marek_wojna	Respond to of 74559

Maurice, you are such intelligent guy - WAKE UP!!!!!!!!! The call is for the part <<We can also roll back financial collapses! Alan Green$pan is in the process of doing that now, having reduced the irrationally exuberant back to the daily grind, which is boring but more productive than millions of SWS [sudden wealth syndrome] people sitting around guzzling champagne.>>

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (7140)	8/15/2001 2:55:19 AM
From: Moominoid	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

UV is damaging to plants too... They use light in the visible spectrum on either side of green ... On the other hand, CO2 is really good for plants. They could do with a lot more. And warmer temperatures would be good too. But again within reason. Of course some in lowland areas won't appreciate getting swamped with salt water. The sun wasn't as bright when all that carbon was laid down. Though there is a hell of a lot more in limestone than in coal, oil, natural gas etc. A moderate amount of global warming will be good for both us and the plants. Especially if we could find somewhere to put the excess sea water... But we don't want to see huge increases in temperature. So need to stop the warming at some point by stabilizing emissions at a new equilibrium level. IMO the excessive global warming problem will be solved fairly easily by mid-century without much economic disruption, just like the Ozone one was solved. Improved alternative technologie, higher energy efficiency and carbon sequestration will all be part of the solution. David

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (7140)	8/15/2001 4:06:20 AM
From: LTK007	Read Replies (5) \| Respond to of 74559

<<For some weird reason, people who claim to be Greens, or environmentally aware, think oil should stay in the ground and we should ride bicycles [or walk]. Greens should understand that their name "Greens" derives from chlorophyll. Chlorophyll loves carbon dioxide, which is not a poison, it is food! It shows how ignorant Greens are. They are really just religious wackoes. They claim to love Gaia, then kick her in the teeth by refusing to raise back to life the carbon which sank to the ocean floor due to fish and other marine fauna dying and sinking, being buried and subducted. People, in the Gaia plan, are here to recycle that life and the Greens are refusing to do their bit for Gaia and the carbon cycle. We need more carbon cycle and less steel bicycle.>> while i concur,amongst the environmentalist,there is signicant "LF segment". But,if remember correctly you are from New Zealand,and thus are speaking in deep ignorance as what rampant hydro-carbons burning can do if the oil/coal hydro-carbon ilk get the time machine rolled back as the U.S. greed machine wants. I don't think you know a damned thing about and what it was like in our industrially intense world before we started to make for controls. Ever here of place called Donora, Pennsylvania ,probably not.(But give the U.S. and China,a chance--Donora won't be a distant memory anymore.) But your blanketing all "greens" as 'wackos' puts you on the flip side--you sound like an anti-environmentalist 'wacko' Max btw, your preaching about how plants love Carbon DiOxide,like DUH,we don't know.Give me a break!

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (7140)	8/15/2001 12:43:25 PM
From: Mark Adams	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

For some weird reason, people who claim to be Greens, or environmentally aware, think oil should stay in the ground and we should ride bicycles [or walk]. Such an approach would also increase C02, as stored fat is burned returning CO2, N and H20 to the cycle. I personally take this approach, though while I burn less petro now, I still manage to consume more calories than I return via physical activity. So I am still a liability to the plant world...