To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (2788 ) 8/16/2001 3:40:13 AM From: GUSTAVE JAEGER Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 23908 Sounds like you haven't heard of European child-sex abuses, incestuous practices, and porn business either, have you?uri.edu Excerpt: At least 200 women, including girls under the age of 16, were trafficked by one Polish man to Germany and the Netherlands between 1993 and 1996. (Warsaw Voice , 1996, "Trafficking of Women to the European Union: Characterisitics, Trends and Policy Issues," European Conference on Trafficking in Women, June 1996), IOM, 7 May 1996) Two German lawyers, Bernd Malitzki, 31, and Sabine Pohl-Jovanovic, 37, offered to acquire a Czech girl of 12-14 for "extreme sex games" for DM12,000, if she died they would dispose of the body for DM3,000 (US$1,580). They used the Internet for initial contacts under the nicknames of "Sado-Hangman" and "Leather-Witch." Malitzki said he was a practicing sado-masochist. Police found a soundproofed torture room in their home in Stephanskirchen, near Rosenheim in southern Germany. They were arrested under charges of conspiracy to kidnap, conspiracy to abuse children and conspiracy to murder. ("German couple on trial for Net torture," Calgary Herald , 7 August 1997) ______________ In Belgium:uri.edu Excerpt:Organized and Institutionalized Sexual Exploitation and Violence A Nigerian women seeking asylum in Belgium for gender-related violence died while gendarmes (police) escorted her during her deportation. The 20-year-old woman was trying to escape a forced marriage to a polygamous 65-year-old man with a history of abusing his other wives. The gendarmes used an approved technique to subdue the woman who had been shouting. The men pressed a small pillow to her mouth. The woman suffered a meningeal hemorrhage and brain death. Her deportation was filmed since she had resisted four earlier attempts to deport her. Her request for asylum was denied as her claims were considered "unfounded." Hundreds of people protested the treatment of the women at a hospital and at the home of the Belgian Interior Minister Louis Tobback, calling for his resignation. (Bert Lauwers, "Anger in Belgium after young Nigerian woman dies," Reuters , 23 September 1998) Interior Minister Louis Tobback took responsibility for the Nigerian woman's death following the storming of the Senate building by anti-government protestors. Tobback said the woman's deportation was justified and her case had not met the requirements for political asylum as set forth in the Geneva Convention and under humanitarian grounds. He also stated that only highly qualified gendarmes had been chosen to escort her. The woman, handcuffed and in leg irons, was subdued after she began screaming as other passengers boarded the aircraft. (Leslie Adler, "Belgian minister takes blame in death of refugee," Reuters , 23 September 1998) Interior Minister Louis Tobback offered his resignation over the death of the Nigerian woman. He admitted that the woman died because of mistakes made by police during her deportation. His resignation came after international outrage, including protests in Paris and a letter of concern signed by 100 worldwide legislators. One of the police officers being investigated in the death previously faced an investigation in similar case. The woman arrived in Belgium in March, 1998; she was then held in a detention center for refugees. ("Belgian minister offers resignation over refugee," Reuters , 24 September 1998) _________________ Or just pick any country from the list below...uri.edu ...and then lecture me about the condition of women in the "civilized" West --or just tell me more about the Mormons' polygamy and incestuous practices. Oh, idiot that I am! Carolyn told me: Mormon women just love it... Hey, it's a FREE country after all!!