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To: ColtonGang who wrote (171646)	8/15/2001 3:37:55 PM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

I base my objection to Roe on the obvious fallacy of the absolute right to privacy. The Constitution itself refers to circumstances when privacy may be violated, according to due process of law, as when a search warrant is obtained. Additionally, it need not be the case that a consensus on the beginning of human life develop. All that must be shown is that there is a state interest in banning the practice. I would consider the "slippery slope", eroding respect for human life, especially in infancy, to suffice. I personally would advocate treating first trimester abortion fairly leniently, given the arguments that can arise about the harm at that stage. I would restrict sanctions to fines of the those who performed the abortion, with a limit after which the license would be pulled. And, of course, I would make exceptions for incest, rape, and serious danger to the mother. I would treat late term abortions as infanticide, and mid- term abortions by more harshly than one, but less so than the other. The main thing is that I think it belongs back in the state houses as a matter for political debate...........

To: ColtonGang who wrote (171646)	8/15/2001 3:38:57 PM
From: Thomas A Watson	Respond to of 769667

An no speculation is needed as to when human life begins. In 1981 (April 23-24) a Senate Judiciary Subcommittee held hearings on the very question before us here: When does human life begin? Appearing to speak on behalf of the scientific community was a group of internationally-known geneticists and biologists who had the same story to tell, namely, that human life begins at conception - and they told their story with a profound absence of opposing testimony. Dr. Micheline M. Mathews-Roth, Harvard medical School, gave confirming testimony, supported by references from over 20 embryology and other medical textbooks that human life began at conception. "Father of Modern Genetics" Dr. Jerome Lejeune told the lawmakers: "To accept the fact that after fertilization has taken place a new human has come into being is no longer a matter of taste or opinion ... it is plain experimental evidence." Dr. Hymie Gordon, Chairman, Department of Genetics at the Mayo Clinic, added: "By all the criteria of modern molecular biology, life is present from the moment of conception." Dr. McCarthy de Mere, medical doctor and law professor, University of Tennessee, testified: "The exact moment of the beginning of personhood and of the human body is at the moment of conception." Dr. Alfred Bongiovanni, University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine, concluded, "I am no more prepared to say that these early stages represent an incomplete human being than I would be to say that the child prior to the dramatic effects of puberty ... is not a human being." Dr. Richard V. Jaynes: "To say that the beginning of human life cannot be determined scientifically is utterly ridiculous." Dr. Landrum Shettles, sometimes called the "Father of In Vitro Fertilization" notes, "Conception confers life and makes that life one of a kind." And on the Supreme Court ruling _Roe v. Wade_, "To deny a truth [about when life begins] should not be made a basis for legalizing abortion." Professor Eugene Diamond: "...either the justices were fed a backwoods biology or they were pretending ignorance about a scientific certainty." tom watson tosiwmee