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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: The Philosopher who wrote (22461)	8/16/2001 5:37:12 PM
From: Bill	Respond to of 82486

Perhaps she's a study hall type substitute teacher who would be able to "teach" at all levels. Her personality is all that is required to keep the kids scared enough to be quiet.

To: The Philosopher who wrote (22461)	8/16/2001 5:41:59 PM
From: Constant Reader	Respond to of 82486

But I have read a lot written by her, and have a wider range of knowledge of her beliefs.... It seems to me that you may know less than you think you do and have provided an example in a subsequent post. But does it suffice for expressing an opinion here on SI? In my opinion, yes. Is it? I think not. You certainly did not like it when I criticized your posts in the same way that you criticized her professional qualifications.

To: The Philosopher who wrote (22461)	8/16/2001 6:13:56 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

Oh please. That isn't what you meant at all. What you meant was you don't like me (even though you have never understood my posts and still don't) and don't think I should be a teacher because you don't like me. It has nothing to do with where I am teaching and which credentials I am getting. TALK about hypocrisy! I don't think you should not be a lawyer because I don't like you. Or even because you are a hypocrite. I wouldn't want you to be my personal lawyer- but as for your abilities, I've no idea. And you have none of mine. You really haven't. I am really wonderful at what I do. I can't help it. I am. I have always been good at everything in school, but I never loved anything the way I love teaching. I can reach students who have been scarred by the system. I can connect with the brightest children. It's a gift. I can't really claim any credit for it- I simply discovered it in myself. And that was an accident. If I hadn't needed to be at school everyday for my son, and taken up substituting I never would have found my passion. It's a great thing to find that. As for teaching at multiple levels- no principal in our district has ever failed to teach at every level. It is pretty much required if you ever hope to go into administration, that you have taught primary, middle school, and high school. My principal for summer school (for example) taught my daughter for 5th grade after coming down from middle school. Before that she taught high school. At the moment I am almost done with a multisubject credential- I only need to take one more class to have a single subject as well. To teach middle school all I need is my multiple subject, but to move up to high school I need the single subject. I don't know how I could possibly know what area I would prefer if I didn't teach at all levels. After I finish the single subject I will go for reading specialist or administrative credential- they tell me my law degree is a very attractive asset for an administrator to have. Far from being a one to a million exception I've found that most of the teachers I meet have taught at primary and middle, or primary and high school. Lots of people like to have change in their lives. Not you perhaps. And maybe Washington State is different. Hard to believe it is THAT different- but I will extend you the courtesy of believing you, even if you cannot extend that to me. The more teaching you do, at diverse ages, the better a teacher you will be. And I intend to be the very best. Many teachers have middle school children who cannot read- if they do not understand the phonemic awareness and phonics skills needed to teach a k/1st grader, how will they provide the special instruction they are mandated to provide. In California we are legally mandated to teach ALL our students at their curriculum level. This often means teaching more than 9 levels of curriculum- I kid you not, I did an observation in a class where levels in reading ran from pre-primer to 11th grade- a range I am sure you can calculate for yourself. Now, on to some other points. I was not running away from here I was attempting not to get swept down into a gutter that is filled with vile substances. I cannot own what is going on here. And I HAVE complained to SI Jeff. I want this stream of posting about me to stop. I am not a public figure. I will not be part of this board any longer. I do not wish to associate with any of you. Surely you "men" here have better things to do with your time than discuss me. Maybe not, but if not, maybe now is the time to develop other interests. I do not want people defending me anymore than I want to see people ignorant of me trying to discuss me and my life and my posts. The only PM's I have sent out were to tell people to STOP defending me. That I do not need. Oh yes- I have read the Mc Carthyistic posts "I've no proof but what I THINK X is doing......" This is what X is doing. She is leaving here. She is going to be a magnificent teacher. Maybe even better than the holy Hodgkin family of teachers. edit-And just so you know, it won't be possible for me to read your reply. No doubt it will be full of apologies that you did not understand the California education system. No doubt you will apologize for implying that I was somehow whipping up a defense I DID NOT WANT. I thank you in advance for your apologies. You did need to make them. I wish you everything you deserve.

To: The Philosopher who wrote (22461)	9/17/2002 9:30:08 PM
From: GROUND ZERO™	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

You are just about the most arrogant poster I've ever read, you really need to get some professional help with your attitude... there is little doubt you're covering up an inner felt sense of inadequacy with a hard shelled arrogance... you prefer to make judgements about others here, but you have no clue about much of anything... you really have a low opinion of yourself, and making harsh judgements of others gives you that much needed boost... get some help, you need it... GZ