To: Jdaasoc who wrote (77581 ) 8/17/2001 1:44:46 AM From: NightOwl Respond to of 93625 Under the logic of Payne Markman which indirectly led to last remaining outstanding fraud conviction, RMBS 4i RDRAM doesn't infringe on its own patents. <LOL>. One of its main features is separate control and data bus --pg 1. It may take a while but Infineon ruling will eventually be reversed. It's sorry for Micron and Hynix didn't they didn't get to go first since disproven DDR JEDEC defense and wacko Markman decided by technical amatuer Judge Payne will not happen in their cases. Jdaasoc, Can you walk me through the RMBS proposed definition of the "multiplexed bus" claim terminology and explain to me why it would not read on all pre-1990 DRAM types as well as post 1990 DRAM types? Again I'm not talking about the entire patent, or even any one claim in its entirety. Just their explanation of what a "multiplexed bus" consists of. As I understood their explanation, the definition would have covered any and all bus designs ever made to connect to any multi-celled memory IC. ...And remember you are talking to a Mom & Pop of at least the 3rd Degree here. The reason I ask is because from the very earliest "Pop Sci" descriptions of The Bus (long before it became a public company or grabbed INTC by the short and curlies) I can only recall it being described as a wiz bang design, unique for its specific ability to pump data over two pins at warp factor 9. Now, flash forward to 2001 and its transmogrified into a bus for all seasons. Multiplexing here, duoplexing, uniplexing there. In fact, now they say this isn't a wiz bang bus design at all! Its a whole "system" for doing really fast stuff on any bus at all! And if you have stuff that does it really fast, ...well, that "stuff" must be ours! Hopefully the entire history of exchanges between the patent examiner and the boys from Los Altos will be laid bare one day. But my guess is that it would make the PTO look particularly incompetent and that it will never see the light of day. ...Much like RMBS ever collecting royalties from IFX. ...Whether Payne's Markman ruling were overturned or not. ...Which it won't be. ...Mainly because the behavior of this organization is just not worth turning an entire world industry on its head. 0|0