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Technology Stocks : Capstone Turbine Corporation (CPST) -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Sword who wrote (221)8/17/2001 2:23:04 AM
From: Maurice Winn  Respond to of 455
 
Sword, thanks for that information and comment.

I have two problems with the fuel cell microturbine hybrid.

One is that I am very unconvinced to the extent that I think it's a load of nonsense that we need to sequester carbon dioxide to avoid air temperature rises. Perhaps we are able to raise air temperatures by burning a great deal of fossil hydrocarbons. I doubt it. Even if we are able to raise the temperatures, by increasing the CO2 content, I would not be surprised if that is a good thing rather than a bad thing.

I think increased temperatures and increased carbon dioxide could be good rather than bad because the earth's natural inclination seems to be an ice age. If we think rising sea levels are bad, wait until the high latitude people have a couple of kilometres of ice and snow on top of their farms and cities when an ice age is underway.

Also, plants like to eat carbon dioxide. That's their food. All the fossil hydrocarbons used to be in the ecosphere so I'm unconvinced that it would be any bad thing for them to be alive again, joining the great DNA rat race.

I suspect that ice ages became common-place as the carbon dioxide was stripped from the atmosphere and deposited under the oceans, and in oil, gas, coal and limestone. Without the natural warming provided by that fecund ecosphere, the thinner atmosphere let us cool off into ice ages.

So I would not want to spend my money on solving a problem which doesn't exist, which seems, to a large extent, the aim of the hybrid system. Fuel cells seem largely aimed at carbon dioxide emissions control but also at other pollutants.

Since a turbine avoids the other pollutants, to a very great extent, the advantage of a fuel cell added is to improve thermal efficiency.

Which brings me to my other problem with fuel cells; the capital cost. I haven't studied this, so maybe they are cheap or can be very cheap. I don't think that's the case.

So, it becomes a matter of whether the extra fuel efficiency of adding a fuel cell justifies the extra cost, weight, space and problems of adding a fuel cell to a turbine-powered vehicle. I'm especially interested in the transport solutions but do appreciate that distributed electricity and space heating might be hugely valuable.

For fixed applications, the extra cost of a fuel cell would need to be justified by the thermal gains from 25% to 75%, which seems a very big gain and I expect the extra cost could be justified. Weight, space and maintenance are less problematic in fixed installations than mobile.

How much per kilowatt do fuel cells cost? Are they big? Do they weigh a lot?

Thinking out loud,
Mqurice



To: Sword who wrote (221)8/17/2001 2:04:55 PM
From: JungleInvestor  Respond to of 455
 
Sword, thanks for the excellent comments. It's rare that a startup has such fast-growing sales and opportunities in so many different areas. The beating it took going from 38 at end of May to 6 something yesterday is a golden opportunity. I bought yesterday and some more today. There's not much downside, especially since the CFO is setting up positive earnings surprises, and a whole lot of upside over the next several years. The energy crisis is not over yet - just in hibernation a little bit due to lower demand from the economic downturn. Even with lower demand, oil and natural gas prices are staying relatively high. There will be a real problem within a year because there just is not enough supply in the U.S. to meet the demand. Alternative energy companies will have their day in the sun.



To: Sword who wrote (221)8/22/2001 10:02:41 AM
From: Bob Rudd  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 455
 
The investment case for CPST looks like positioning for a 5 to 15 year run. With 2.60 in cash, at yesterday's close, the biz was valued at 4.65 [7.15-2.6]. Today the biz value was dropped to 2.60 [5.20-2.6], a 44% decline based on a potentially soft quarter. Added to starter position at 5.25. The case for this is speculative, but the change in outlook for one quarter doesn't change it that much, IMO.



To: Sword who wrote (221)8/28/2001 9:02:20 PM
From: Bocor  Respond to of 455
 
>>I see the company at these levels as a very, very nice investment.>>

Still feel the same way after the warning? Seems to be washed out in here, selling looks to be drying up.