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To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (2815)	8/19/2001 12:50:19 PM
From: Thomas M.	Respond to of 23908

Outstanding article! To repeat my previous post: Message 16201458 An Orthodox Jewish woman explaining the actions of Orthodox Jewish men: "Often they're praying as they walk down the street; it's not that they don't want to look you in the face. And it's not that they don't want to touch your hand; they won't touch any woman's hand." LOL! Tom

To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (2815)	8/19/2001 2:21:41 PM
From: Thomas M.	Respond to of 23908

Interesting stat: In the U.S. women converts to Islam outnumber male converts 4 to 1. I particularly liked this passage: <<< In other words, any objective assessment of the position of women in the Judaeo-Christian tradition has to take into account the historical circumstances in which this tradition developed. There can be no doubt that the views of the Rabbis and the Church Fathers regarding women were influenced by the prevalent attitudes towards women in their societies. The Bible itself was written by different authors at different times. These authors could not have been impervious to the values and the way of life of the people around them. For example, the adultery laws of the Old Testament are so biased against women that they defy rational explanation by our mentality. However, if we consider the fact that the early Jewish tribes were obsessed with their genetic homogeneity and extremely eager to define themselves apart from the surrounding tribes and that only sexual misconduct by the married females of the tribes could threaten these cherished aspirations, we should then be able to understand, but not necessarily sympathize with, the reasons for this bias. Also, the diatribes of the Church Fathers against women should not be detached from the context of the misogynist Greco-Roman culture in which they lived. It would be unfair to evaluate the Judaeo-Christian legacy without giving any consideration to the relevant historical context. >>>