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To: The Philosopher who wrote (23105)	8/19/2001 12:06:13 AM
From: 2MAR$	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

Well, if it is in the DNA, science hasn't found it yet. So we don't know. That's speculation on your part, not knowledge. Science has more volumes than there are law-books showing that DNA is the blue-print that leads to the formation of the full completely developed human organism . We share 98% plus or more of the same genes as our closest relative the chimpanzee. The Chimpannzee also demonstrates self awareness. The consciousness you want to say that science can't prove the existence of , is happening everyday with each new birth and developing human thru the growth directed by DNA . The tools to comprehend this are very much in existence just as there are the tools and studies to trace back much of man's lineage and history by the study of his tools and artifacts left behind...or you can derive much that is recorded in written history and more recent stories of our wanderings and developement. Is it mere unprovable speculation that we most probably lived very much akin to our primate cousins in modes and methods of survival ? My complete statement , which you just posted but didn't read was DNA is the blue-print , consciousness arises as the formation and growth of the human organism arises . The soul or self evolves as the organism grows and developes...just as we as a species----> over time did. You do realize that you are a biological organism don't you Chris ? A human organism. Homo Sapien. An advanced primate . You grew , developed and evolved as a person . Yes? Or just unprovable speculation ? I could give you some links to the classification of your species if you like .

To: The Philosopher who wrote (23105)	8/19/2001 3:32:14 AM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

I am not sure what my position is in this question but it is a very worthy question. I would like to have a better definition of "Awareness." I would say that a green plant is aware of the Sun. It seeks its light and carries on a relationship through photosynthisis. It is aware at some level of its own biology and assumes a position that is beneficial to its own needs. I would even say that a green plant worships, as all creatures worship the creator of life without question or doubt (except humans). Do they do it with a conscience? I don't think so. Are they aware of their position in history? I doubt it. They are pretty much just here and now in their awareness. Much of what distinguishes humans is our awareness of eternal possibilities, we can do this because our conscience is tweeked by our souls. Were scientists to able to associate DNA with a human soul we could definitely determine the moment that an embryo becomes more than biology. I don't believe we have a human soul at conception, yet we have all of our DNA. So for me it is not possible to answer your question by looking at DNA.