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To: Dan3 who wrote (51665)	8/19/2001 11:46:40 AM
From: Dan3	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 275872

August 19 - I've seen faster P4s and Athlons at both Best Buy and Circuit City, but they aren't in the ads. Since 3 weeks ago, desktop prices have been flat or risen slightly, while many Notebooks dropped by $100 to $200. I'm no longer sure these lists mean much, Certainly AMD was all but gone from advertising during much of Q2, yet they sold record units. So, for whatever it's worth, here's what's being advertised.... b=Best Buy c=Circuit City Sears=s o=Office Depot Note that some details (flat screen monitor, amount of memory, better printer, etc) means the relative value of these systems is not completely reflected below. bto means I added $100 to bto prices to reflect a shipping/inconvenience estimate. MSN means I subtracted $100 to reflect value of 1 year of Internet Desktops Brand Chip speed Monitor Disk Plus Printer Price eMachines Celeron 800 17 20 Yes $399b MSN eMachines Celeron 850 17 20 DVD Yes $499b MSN HP Celeron 900 15 30 RW Yes $799b MSN Compaq Duron 900 15 30 RW Yes $949c Compaq Athlon 1200 17 40 DVD RW Yes $999b MSN Sony Athlon 1000 17 40 DVD RW Yes $999b MSN HP Duron 900 17 30 DVD RW Yes $999o Compaq Athlon 1000 15 30 RW Yes $1,049s eMachines P4 1300 17 40 DVD RW Yes $1,129c Sony P4 1300 NONE 40 DVD RW No $1,149c HP PIII 1000 17 40 DVD RW Yes $1,149c Compaq Athlon 1200 17 40 DVD RW Yes $1,199c Compaq Athlon 1200 17 40 DVD RW Yes $1,199o HP P4 1300 17 40 DVD RW Yes $1,249b MSN Compaq Athlon 1200 17 DDR 60 DVD RW Yes $1,399c bto Compaq Athlon 1200 17 DDR 40 DVD RW Yes $1,508o bto HP P4 1600 17 40 DVD RW Yes $1,849b bto MSN Notebooks Brand Chip speed Monitor Disk Plus RAM Price Compaq Celeron 800 13.3 10 DVD 128 $899b MSN HP Duron 850 14.1 20 DVD 128 $1,049b MSN HP Celeron 800 13.3 10 DVD 128 $1,149c Sony Duron 800 15 10 DVD 128 $1,199b MSN HP Duron 850 14.1 20 DVD 128 $1,249o Sony Celeron 650 12.1 15 DVD 128 $1,299b MSN Compaq Duron 850 14.1 20 DVD 128 $1,299s Sony Duron 800 15 10 DVD 128 $1,399c Sony PIII 800 14.1 15 DVD CDRW 128 $1,499b MSN HP PIII 850 15 20 DVD CDRW 128 $1,499b MSN HP Athlon4 1000 20 20 DVD CDRW 256 $1,699b MSN Compaq Athlon4 1000 14.1 20 DVD CDRW 128 $1,699c Apple G3 DVD CDRW $1,799c Compaq PIII 1130 14.1 20 DVD CDRW 256 $1,949b bto MSN Compaq PIII 900 15 30 DVD 192 $1,999c

To: Dan3 who wrote (51665)	8/19/2001 1:11:46 PM
From: Windsock	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

Dan3 says "Given the scenario you describe, [If Via has the legal right to sell their P4 chipset, and Intel is bullying OEMs not to use it, Via should be able to sue for damages]" That is your description NOT mine. Dan3 continues "... it's pretty much a slam dunk for RICO (Racketeering Influenced Corrupt Organization) triple damages. The plaintiff will need 3 incidents" Total, utter nonsense. Go read the RICO statute and see what acts allow a RICO claim. Crimes are required -- "incidents" are not enough. It is not a crime to say "We believe that the Via chipset violates Intel's patents". This is a perfectly legitimate statement. Note that Via has acknowledged the Intel patents by signing a patent license for other P6 chipsets and paying royalties. But now Via says that it does not need a license for its new DDR chipset. Why? Because Via would rather steal Intel's technology rather than pay for its use.