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To: Thomas M. who wrote (2872)8/20/2001 1:43:44 AM
From: Thomas M.  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 23908
 
"Palestine belongs to the Arabs in the same sense that England belongs to the English or France to the French...What is going on in Palestine today cannot be justified by any moral code of conduct...If they [the Jews] must look to the Palestine of geography as their national home, it is wrong to enter it under the shadow of the British gun. A religious act cannot be performed with the aid of the bayonet or the bomb. They can settle in Palestine only by the goodwill of the Arabs... As it is, they are co-sharers with the British in despoiling a people who have done no wrong to them. I am not defending the Arab excesses. I wish they had chosen the way of non-violence in resisting what they rightly regard as an unacceptable encroachment upon their country. But according to the accepted canons of right and wrong, nothing can be said against the Arab resistance in the face of overwhelming odds."

Mahatma Gandhi, quoted in "A Land of Two Peoples" ed. Mendes-Flohr.



To: Thomas M. who wrote (2872)8/20/2001 2:08:21 AM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 23908
 
Senator [J.William Fulbright] proposed in 1970 that America should guarantee Israel's security in a formal treaty, protecting her with armed forces if necessary. In return, Israel would retire to the borders of 1967. The UN Security Council would guarantee this arrangement, and thereby bring the Soviet Union - then a supplier of arms and political aid to the Arabs - into compliance. As Israeli troops were withdrawn from the Golan Heights, the Gaza Strip and the West Bank they would be replaced by a UN peacekeeping force. Israel would agree to accept a certain number of Palestinians and the rest would be settled in a Palestinian state outside Israel.

Let me see if I have this proposal straight. Israel would sign a treaty with the United States -- but not with the neigboring hostile Arab states! -- withdraw to the 1967 borders, and rely on a UN Peacekeeping force for their security. ROFLMAO. Israel hasn't survived by relying on other people for its security, and particularly not UN peacekeeping forces, who never in their history protected anybody from anybody.

Remember in 1956, when Nasser said to the peacekeeping force in the Sinai, "Get out of my way", and they said "Yes sir, Mr. Nasser, sir".

The Arab states were offered the territories back, in exchange for recognition and a peace treaty. Do the "three nos" of the Khartoum Summit ring a bell: "No recognition. No negotiation. No treaty."?