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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Rambi who wrote (23648)	8/21/2001 9:10:22 AM
From: Neocon	Respond to of 82486

Good morning! I am sorry that things got out of hand, but consider this: brees didn't comment behind X's back, but to her directly. If she had wanted to respond, she could have. Instead, a couple of days and many posts later, we get E stirring the pot. In my book, that equals starting it..... I sympathize with the sorrow. I hope you will find the trip pleasant enough to somehow encourage you.......

To: Rambi who wrote (23648)	8/21/2001 9:17:02 AM
From: Lane3	Respond to of 82486

Have a great day- we are off to LA. I shall return a sad, lonely mom to my empty nest. Be brave. :) Karen

To: Rambi who wrote (23648)	8/21/2001 10:17:53 AM
From: MulhollandDrive	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

Dear Rambi Message 16232098 Before you go... "To the statement "If E hadn't ...", I can only shake my head in some bemusement... E may have invited brees to the dance, but it seems that many decided to cut in voluntarily and take a turn around the dancefloor. Which is just fine, but to say "E did it!" sounds- well- as a mom, I've heard similar words many times and it makes me laugh." As a mom, When raising my children, I considered the "content" of their words important. And I never allowed my children to slur one another because of a disagreement. I'm very glad that I took a principled stand with "the children." They've grown into wonderfully responsible adults. So I don't know, perhaps you're right, the "dancefloor" should have been vacated with brees and E taking center stage, but I don't think it's unfair to show a willingness to 'take a stand' at what transpired on a principled basis. As Neo so graciously supplied the thread with the essay of John Mill....apparently as fine a thinker as he felt the necessity to address the finer points of public discourse and the inherent dangers. "- we are off to LA. I shall return a sad, lonely mom to my empty nest." Have a wonderful trip,I've been there and done that, and I think I can identify. But as I'm sure you already know, the nest is never really "empty". And there will come a time when you will enjoy your new found "freedom". Betty

To: Rambi who wrote (23648)	8/21/2001 11:36:03 AM
From: The Philosopher	Respond to of 82486

we are off to LA. I shall return a sad, lonely mom to my empty nest. It can be survivied. I am living proof. And I can tell you it makes the vacations so much sweeter when everybody's home.

To: Rambi who wrote (23648)	8/21/2001 12:20:34 PM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

THE CIRCLE GAME Yesterday a child came out to wonder Caught a dragonfly inside a jar Fearful when the sky was full of thunder And tearful at the falling of a star Then the child moved ten times round the seasons Skated over ten clear frozen streams Words like, when you're older, must appease him And promises of someday make his dreams And the seasons they go round and round And the painted ponies go up and down We're captive on the carousel of time We can't return we can only look behind From where we came And go round and round and round In the circle game Sixteen springs and sixteen summers gone now Cartwheels turn to car wheels thru the town And they tell him, Take your time, it won't be long now Till you drag your feet to slow the circles down And the seasons they go round and round And the painted ponies go up and down We're captive on the carousel of time We can't return we can only look behind From where we came And go round and round and round In the circle game So the years spin by and now the boy is twenty Though his dreams have lost some grandeur coming true There'll be new dreams, maybe better dreams and plenty Before the last revolving year is through And the seasons they go round and round And the painted ponies go up and down We're captive on the carousel of time We can't return, we can only look behind From where we came And go round and round and round In the circle game JONI MITCHELL