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To: Thomas M. who wrote (2890)	8/21/2001 1:30:13 PM
From: TimF	Respond to of 23908

"Last week, when a suicide bomber blew up a Sbarro restaurant in Jerusalem full of kids, killing 15 people and wounding 100, Israel responded by seizing control of some Palestinian military installations. " This is a lie. Israel responded by seizing The Orient House and raising the Israeli flag above it. The Orient House is a quasi-embassy for the Palestinians. This was another blatant attempt to thwart Palestinian statehood. Nadine is continuously ranting about the lack of Palestinain statesmen for Israel to negotiate with, yet Israel does everything in its power to negate such people. If the Palestinian Authority is going to perform or support acts of terrorism or acts of war, then it shouldn't be surprised to see some reaction. Fortunately this was a relatively no violent reaction. If Arafat is going to treat Israel as the enemy that he is at war with then it will respond with war. I'm glad they only seized a building rather then doing something much more violent. Tim

To: Thomas M. who wrote (2890)	8/21/2001 1:52:01 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 23908

RE: Night after night, the American media harps on Palestinina terrorists killing Israeli civilians, while blithely ignoring the Israeli provocatory actions. In fact, the last thing the American media would ever do is list the body count side by side, because Palestinians are dying in much greater numbers. What planet have you been living on? The following article illustrates the typical CNN formula for Mideast reporting. 1) Headline: Israeli troops shoot someone Palestinians shot in Gaza August 18, 2001 Posted: 5:22 AM EDT (0922 GMT) JERUSALEM (CNN) -- Palestinian officials said one Palestinian was killed and seven others injured after the Israeli army fired on Palestinian territory. 2) Following paragraphs: The Israelis were responding to shooting and/or mortar attacks initiated by the Palestinians The officials said Abdo Abu Bakra, 29, died from a gunshot wound to the head after Palestinian gunmen opened fire following an Israeli incursion late Friday into Khan Younis refugee camp in southern Gaza. The Israeli army confirmed it initiated activity in Palestinian-controlled territory in Khan Younis. Army officials said there had been several instances of shooting coming from this territory aimed at an Israeli settlement. 3) More background information (omitted here) 4) Finally, the body count: About 680 people have been killed since September, including more than 500 Palestinians and about 150 Israelis. When on the air, CNN usually adds the phrase "cycle of violence" somewhere in the description. This the absolutely typical formula, used over and over in printed and video reporting. I found this article in two minutes and I could find a dozen more without effort. Now, you may consider that all Israeli actions taken in response to mortar or gun fire are "provocative". The only appropriate response in your book may be for the Israelis to sit on their hands and take gunfire and bombs. They don't agree. Last year Ehud Barak wanted to do a deal and offered a settlement that went far, far beyond any previous Israeli offer, even breaking long-standing taboos against dividing Jerusalem. Arafat was so unprepared for this that he could not even make a counteroffer, and started shooting instead, reneging on all his Oslo promises and destroying whatever small levels of trust had been accumulated. This is the fact of the matter, and harping on "Israeli provocations" doesn't alter it. The Palestinians are in this situation because they have no leadership.