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To: fyodor_ who wrote (51897)	8/21/2001 2:20:43 PM
From: Gopher Broke	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 275872

Why is the 1GHz Morgan power consumption such a big deal? We all know that the Al process is not as good as the Cu process. As far as I am aware, AMD are switching Fab 25 to flash production only and moving Morgans production to Dresden, at which point Morgan power consumption will improve. Then there is .13 and SOI. Seems to me the 1GHz Morgan is just another step along the road. The significance is simply that AMD are the first to 1GHz in the value line, The scalability of Morgan at Fab 25 is irrelevant in the light of the forthcoming switches to Cu, .13 and SOI.

To: fyodor_ who wrote (51897)	8/21/2001 2:31:40 PM
From: Jim McMannis	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 275872

Has anyone considered the possibility that 1.75v for the 1000 Mhz morgan is an error or misprint? 1.45 to 1.75 to get just 100 Mhz makes little sense to me. Espeacially since a regular Duron will run 1000 Mhz easily at 1.6 v. Jim

To: fyodor_ who wrote (51897)	8/21/2001 9:23:50 PM
From: Charles R	Respond to of 275872

fyo, <Yes, I have:> Thank you for posting the details. <Not much of an improvement at all> Based on the data you present and based on my understanding that Morgan is made available only at speeds higher than 950 MHz, it looks like Morgan may be yielding at around 1100MHz (100MHz lower than my estimate of what Spitfire is capable of doing). Not as bad as I thought it was when I first looked at the 1.75V number. If my estimate is correct, AMD should be having decent yields at 1100MHz with Morgan NOW - which means we should see a 1100MHz part at the time of real launch (i.e. sometime in October when systems become widely available). Still not good but not as bad as I thought. Chuck