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To: Cogito Ergo Sum who wrote (7612)	8/23/2001 2:55:44 AM
From: Snowshoe	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74559

>>Those Rockies are gorgeous<< Yes! I live in Alaska now, but the best scenery I've ever seen is in the Canadian Rockies. Later on the trip we drove the Cassiar Highway down thru BC while they were paving it for the first time. After weeks bouncing on gravel roads, I hit a newly-paved stretch and was cruising smoothly through the pristine wilderness at 80mph before I realized it and checked my speed. I still vividly recollect the endless forests of really huge trees along that road. No wonder BC is all hopped up about this lumber tariff Bush just slapped on. I wish Bush had taken up the Canadian proposal to negotiate this issue rather than acting unilaterally.

To: Cogito Ergo Sum who wrote (7612)	8/23/2001 11:40:00 AM
From: Bicycle	Respond to of 74559

Ontario speed... It's tough for people who don't live in Ontario to know how fast to drive. The trouble stems from the fact that the posted speed limits are never the 'real' speed limit. The 'real' limit being the speed at which a driver will be stopped. On 400 highways, the posted limit is 100, with almost all traffic moving at 120. 125 to 130 may get you caught, with 140 being a certainty. At the posted 100, you become a hazard or obstacle. On regular highways, the posted limit is 80. Here, speed varies much more. Commonly, people drive between 90 and 100; however, people can be observed driving between 70 and 120 if road conditions and traffic allows. Expect to be stopped if you're driving above 95. County roads are inconsistent in that they may have posted speeds of 80 or 90. That's right! Some county roads have speed limits 10 higher than highways. Most traffic moves 15 above the posted limit. In 35 years of driving, I've only once ever seen speeds being monitored by police on a county road, and he didn't stop anyone. Township roads, if paved, are posted at 80. Here, people usually drive at the posted limit. Most unusual road situations come with a reduced speed posting. These include winding roads, narrow bridges, hidden intersections... As a general rule, a reasonably skilled driver in an average car can travel these at double the suggested speed. Cities have a posted limit of 50. I've never heard of anyone stopped below 60 unless something additional attracted the cop's attention. However, since these urban speed traps are viewed as a revenue source as much as a safety issue, you can expect no mercy on slow days. We operate on a point system, where violations are recorded against your license. Speeding at less than 15 over the limit doesn't bring a points penalty. Police officers commonly charge drivers with speeding at a point level below their actual transgression. It's up to the officer's discretion; therefore, it pays to be polite. Speeding brings a ticket. Your car is not detained and you are not arrested. Out of province drivers are allowed to continue their journey. Speeds in this post are expressed as kilometers per hour. 100 km/h is about 61 mph. Oh yeah -- we use Eh quite a bit, but I think it's use is more common with people over a certain age. Bye4Now, FD.