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Pastimes : The California Energy Crisis - Information & Forum -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Bearcatbob who wrote (929)	8/23/2001 8:56:50 PM
From: Zeuspaul	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1715

Hey Zeus, 200 years from now do you think the world will be out of energy or oil. How about a thousand years from now. I doubt it. The only variable is how and when the natural transistion will take place. Peak oil production will be in ten or twenty years. We need to develop viable alternates before then if we want to maintain growth. The economy will not grow when oil production is on the downside of the production curve. Alternate energy sources take awhile to develop. If we wait for market forces to effect the change we are in for a bumpy painful ride. Markets haven't proven to be very effective promoting energy efficiency. The cost of energy is simply too low to provide enough incentive to promote efficient use of the resource. There are simple effective means to promote energy efficiency. Education is one example. Regulating cell phone chargers and other wasteful wall transformers is another. You would be surprised how much some of those little transformers can waste. 5 watts x 24 hrs x 30 days = 3600 watt-hrs per month. Some draw when not in use and some don't. We should phase out the wasteful ones. The market will not effect such a change. If we use our resources more efficiently we can extend the time frame for developing new resources. The only variable is how and when the natural transistion will take place. Natural transition? There isn't anything natural about it. Our condition is man made. You can sit back and watch and enjoy the unnecessary disruptions and chaos of a laissez faire transition or you can effect a rational change. Success isn't something that just happens. As far as market pricing limiting growth of California - I don't recall making any statements wrt limiting growth in California. You are missing the point about market pricing of water. I will try to make it simple. Here is a multiple choice test. Do you think water should be market priced? A. YES B. NO Zeuspaul