To: Greg or e who wrote (24795 ) 8/25/2001 6:44:49 AM From: Solon Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 82486 One wonders why he keeps it if that's what he truly feels about the church? As "church" opinions go--I suppose you ought to defer to your superior in absolutism.I don't advocate thought control It wouldn't matter if you did. Surely the history of non christian martyrs ought to make plain the fact that you can kill us, but you cannot break our spirit.These are your words, if they are true then hate crimes legislation is totally unnecessary. That is like saying ALL legislation is unnecessary. Nonsense. You cannot have "justice" without determining whether and to what extent there has occurred offense. For instance, "manslaughter" is considered less offensive than murder because there is no premeditation to inform the motive. "Hate crimes" is just a bunch of lawyers tinkering with the system.You don't sound very "tolerant" of moral absolutists I am tolerant of them, but I detest their "certainty" being used to punish the thoughts and to proscribe the actions of others.could it be they are the real target of such legislation? To the extent that "hate crimes" issue from the hostility and intolerance of moral absolutists--yes. You are probably familiar with many of them. Many of them are, of course, anti-Christian. I support legislation to oppose such hate groups. The tenor of your posts suggests that you do not. Well, you're free to think your own thoughts--thinking is not a crime. All of the following are moral absolutists. To my knowledge, there has never been a hate group composed of moral relativists. It is just too friggin bad that these pricks should face a justice which reflects their threat to human existence when they commit a crime, isn't it?? List of Hate Groups Institute for Historical Review A Holocaust denial group Liberty Lobby & Spotlight Magazine Mouthpiece for anti-Semites Aggressive Christianity Anti-Muslim group LMT (Lisa McPherson Trust) Anti-Religious Hate Group Jesus Christ is the Only Way to God Anti-Catholic group Negroid Research Institute Racist World Wide Blasphemy Anti-Christian The National Alliance One of the best-organized and most informative hate sites on the Web Glistrup Anti-Muslim American Christian Nationalists Anti-Gay Ku Klux Klan The model for extremists National Association for the Advancement of White People The KKK without the robes Fælleslisten Mod Indvandringen (The Joint Voters' Register Against Immigration) Danish anti-Muslim group Nation of Gods and Earths Black Supremacist The Identity Church Movement The Worship of Hate Libertarian National Socialist Green Party Anti-Judeo-Christian Posse Comitatus "Tolerance, is the whole problem." British National Party Racist Aryan Nations All non-whites are seen as inferior. Altar of Unholy Blasphemy Anti-Christian FACTNet Anti-Religious Hate Group Committee for Open Debate on the Holocaust Open debate ... as long as it denies the Holocaust. World Church of the Creator 'Racial Holy War' on the Web Westboro Baptist Church Homophobia Online The Creator's Rights Party The Nuremberg Files site reads like a list of targets for assassination. The American Guardian (FagWatch) Anti-Gay Utopian Anarchist Party To eliminate the government of the United States and not replace it Adelaide Institute Holocaust Denial American Nazi Party American Nazi Party S.T.R.A.I.G.H.T. Society To Remove All Immoral Godless Homosexual Trash National Socialist Hitler Youth Legion Neo-Nazi Niggerwatch Racist Revisionism.com Holocaust Denial Weisman Publications Racist and Anti-Semitic Stormfront White Supremacist National Socialist White People's Party Holocaust Denial and Racist. 12 Tribes of Israel Black Supremacist __________________________________when Christ returns to rule and reign with justice and mercy. There will be no stealing of land or anything else for that matter. I hope you are there to enjoy it. No thanks. If anyone today advocated the lifestyle and values as He is purported to have done, they would be jailed.