To: Sharck who wrote (33577 ) 8/27/2001 1:38:56 AM From: milesofstyles Respond to of 37746 since it bothers you at nite, don't invite them on the bed at all during the day either. the dog wouldn't understand the contradiction of being allowed on the bed during the day and not at nite. you can teach the dog, "no" or my preference, "off". and use "no" for other things. push him off and give the command. see how that goes. most books will recommend a designated sleep area too. many, even the cage you originally brought it home in. i never agreed with this, but they explained it as a "place of security" for the dog itself. maybe ya wanna throw down some old pillows for it or sumtin. i read a book by a guy named basche? bash, bashe? i forget the spelling but he was a trainer for hollywood celebs and tv show dogs. he has a section, where if the dog still doesn't respond, fill a small jar with coins and rattle it to get the dogs attention and give the command "off" as you do, eventually you won't need the jar. i was able to do this in the kitchen to keep my dogs away from the table.they do not beg for food while i'm at the table. but sit at a distance away from the table and wait until i am done.in lieu of the jar, i eventually taught the dogs to respond to the snap of my fingers to get their attention now. i liked teaching them hand signals too for all the basic commands. i recommend it to anyone who has a dog who's history includes deafness in later years. one that comes to mind right away is the dalmation.(dalmations are notoriously hard to train too supposedly) its easy, say you give the command sit, you extend yer palm out at the same time. over reward and repetition, they will repsond to just your hands. i use a gesture for "come", a closed hand with thumb extended for "head down". all other head movements are controlled by just the closed hand. a touch of the dogs forarm or full extension of your arm for "paw". for "sitting pretty" i use a fore arm horizontal or elevate the hand while its in the "sit" position. when i want them "up" i bang on my chest. thats just not for them to climb on you, you can eventually use it for anything related like getting into a car. for "no" i used a palm down hand and move it back and forth, left to right.for "draw blood", which is really just a growl to scare, not an attack command, i used a closed fist and open it widely. these dogs will scare the crap otta you with just a hand gesture, lol. they do the ball and frisbee things. some other funny things i did, was teach one to smile, and the other to do a grunt/growl like tim allen used to do on "home improvement". this one still gets my wife, the command it does it to is, "where's momma?", lol.it even cocks its head funny while doing it. just some other ideas while i was at it. milesov