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To: Bill Jackson who wrote (52607)	8/27/2001 12:56:55 PM
From: wanna_bmw	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 275872

Bill, Re: "I do not agree that AMD has been definitively beaten. They have been beaten, yes, but not definiitively." I did not say what you are suggesting. I said that the 2.0GHz Pentium 4 definitively beats AMD's fastest offering, the 1.4GHz Athlon. Other then that, I expect the tables to turn once (if) AMD makes their release in September. But like the other Intel investors, I disagree with the AMD investors' definitions of acceptable benchmarks. You like to call them "pet Intel benchmarks", but these were written with new code and better knowledge of the processor micro-architecture, which allows them to perform better on the Pentium 4. I am referring to the SysMark 2001, 3D Mark 2001, Quake III, DronZ, FlasK, and other benchmarks that are commonly used to show Pentium 4 performance under optimized apps. Choosing to bar these benchmarks entirely is just as bad as using them exclusively. You can't assume that none of the applications people use perform as well as the pet Intel benchmarks, any more than you can assume that all of the apps that people care about contain optimizations for Intel processors. The fact is that some applications have undergone optimizations, but most others have not. Some of the apps that have not are still considered important by many users, which is why there should be a breadth of benchmarks in any review. But by the same token, Intel has done an excellent job of getting optimizations out to a large number of consumer apps, and more are likely to come in the future. Intel may require a 2.0GHz Pentium 4 to beat the 1.4GHz Athlon in legacy apps, but as many reviews have shown, optimized apps have 1.5GHz and 1.7GHz beating AMD's fastest speed grade, and these cannot be ignored. Despite my stake in Intel, I can be realistic, and tell you that I value both kinds of benchmarks. Why can't you do the same? wanna_bmw