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To: almaxel who wrote (44623)	8/28/2001 5:32:08 AM
From: JDN	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 64865

I will buy NO MACHINE that doesnt have software ALREADY LOADED that allows me to surf the internet and use JAVA applets or anything else commonly in use. Damn if I am going to WORRY about downloading something to make SURE my software works. DELL, hope you are reading this or your sales will become EVEN MORE DISMAL in the personal PC business. JUSTICE DEPT hope you are reading this, MSFT just made an ASS out of you AGAIN!! When are you going to WAKE UP. The Evil Empire SURVIVES. Kill it before it kills you!! JDN

To: almaxel who wrote (44623)	8/28/2001 12:24:52 PM
From: DiViT	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 64865

Dear Scott: Stop whining! In response to the Aug. 22 column by Scott McNealy, "The masters of spin are at it again:" I cannot begin to describe the amount of contempt I have for Sun Microsystems since the company started whining about Microsoft's decision not to bundle the Java virtual machine in Windows XP. Every ad you take out, every simpering article you write, makes my stomach turn one more time. You can be sure of one thing: I am abandoning Java, not because it is or will be harder to get, but because I have such low regard for your company now, that I just can't bring myself to support you in any way. When you sued Microsoft, you dug your own grave...Now lie in it. Distribute your own damned software, ya big bunch of babies. And please, please quit your whining. Geoff Witterick Toronto news.cnet.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ McNealy calling the kettle black In response to the Aug. 22 column by Scott McNealy, "The masters of spin are at it again": Scott McNealy has a problem that he can't seem to be over. What is that problem? Microsoft is making more money than him, and he wants that to stop. So he has set off on a spin campaign of his own. I think the thing that gets me to most with this article is that McNealy accuses Microsoft of doing stuff just because it is bad for consumers. I will be the first to admit Microsoft does stuff that is bad for customers, but never have I seen a company do that just because they can. Microsoft is no exception. What McNealy needs to face is that when Sun sued Microsoft over Java, it burned all bridges with the company. Anything Microsoft would ever have thought about doing as a favor for Sun will never happen now. (Whether Sun or Microsoft was right does not change this fact.) Microsoft lost and had to change to a version of Java to something Sun liked, and it turned out to be buggy and full of security holes. Well, as Microsoft built XP and then subsequently went about rushing it to market, doing favors for Sun was not at the top of its list. Microsoft knows that it does not need Java for people to buy its stuff. What Sun does not understand is that it needs Microsoft for Java to survive. Maybe if Sun had turned Java over to a board of standards instead of trying to keep it all for itself, Microsoft would have picked it up again. Microsoft hates to miss out on an international standard. Nathan Raddin Richmond, Va. news.cnet.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Double standard in JVM furor In response to the Aug. 22 column by Scott McNealy, "The masters of spin are at it again": What about Adobe and Macromedia? Should Microsoft be forced to load these applications with the OS just because a critical mass uses them as well? The JVM is a double standard. Microsoft owes it no more favors than it does to Adobe or Macromedia. People will just have to download and install it themselves, just like you have to with Adobe and Macromedia. Nathan Plant Research Triangle Park, N.C. news.cnet.com