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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: The Philosopher who wrote (25024)	8/28/2001 11:31:20 AM
From: Bill	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

Are you repeatedly mentioning your distaste for post partem depression?

To: The Philosopher who wrote (25024)	8/28/2001 11:58:20 AM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

Quite a predicament we are in. Yates from all accounts was a loving mom. There is no clear explanation except the depression, which does not mix well with the usual motives for murder. On the other hand we've got the political opportunists out in force trying to make hay out of dead babies again. What ever your take on Yates do you believe this woman could ever realistically be a fully contributing member of a community in our society again?

To: The Philosopher who wrote (25024)	8/28/2001 12:00:06 PM
From: jlallen	Respond to of 82486

We are all "equal", its just that some of us are more "equal" than others.... (apologies to G. Orwell) JLA

To: The Philosopher who wrote (25024)	8/28/2001 3:28:57 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

Amazing. Have they no shame?

To: The Philosopher who wrote (25024)	8/29/2001 1:36:48 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 82486

"Check out the groups defending Andrea Yates. Well, there is a quite obvious parallel in the literature review you've been participating in recently. "I've read what you all have said though, and I agree with the idea of her madness as strength.." (Poet) I think X is right, that her control is her madness, ...bla..."Sisters, you'll have to creep over him (the patriarchal male) every time!" (E) "We have the power, maybe not as a class but certainly as individuals, to make them very unhappy, to exploit them, to blame them for our own choices. It is truly not 1899 any more." (Rambi) I looked for a stream of that conversation that included concern for the children or empathy for the male role in such a tragedy...did I miss it? and, Where is the NOW coalition for children of psychotic mothers? Madness as strength…harummph.