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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Jagfan who wrote (175578)	8/28/2001 10:42:58 PM
From: Neeka	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769668

Well, that is quite chilling and very disturbing. AS, Coltongang, JF what say you? Defend your hero. M

To: Jagfan who wrote (175578)	8/29/2001 1:06:04 AM
From: American Spirit	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769668

If any of those paranoid ideas were true 100 million and three years of Kenneth Starr would have found one iota of evidence. There is a big difference between reality and wishful imagination. And has anyone else ever heard of those other people besides Foster? I haven't. Never saw it in the news. Three years of Whitewater investigations and you think Starr would ignore something like that if there was any credence to it? C'mon, you Clinton-bashers already had your long-long-long day in court at tax-payers expense. Starr found one thing, a lie about infidelity. So congratulations. Now give it a break. You found Monica and got your GW as a result. I'm sure that was worth 600 votes in Florida. Clinton was a fighter and when cornered about sex sometimes even a liar but no murderer and you know it. And if you don't know it maybe you should be institutionalized. Also Clinton was a hugely succesful president who paid down the debt and left us with a great surplus which your boy just gave away to the rich and oil companies so now we're going back into debt again. I wouldn't be throwing stones from glass houses, bubba. Abnd just wait until the next Special Prosecutor does his job on your good ole Texas oil millionaires. No comparison. Please don't respond. One more post like that and IGNORE button. You need psychological help, my friend. At least when I talk about something like Reagan's October Surprise it's been well written about in major newspapers and magazines. Your accusations falls into the idocy whack job column. Unless you were joking. Maybe you were.

To: Jagfan who wrote (175578)	8/29/2001 1:15:56 AM
From: American Spirit	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769668

Educate Yourself on "Clinton's Body Count" (LOL): "Almost everyone on the Internet has received an email listing various dead folks under the heading "Clinton's Body Count." The number of dead has varied considerably over the years we've seen this; it's actually lower than it used it be, more often around 60 compared to 80 in some versions a couple of years ago. There is never any documentation or proof, just a lot of suspicious sounding coincidences. We're pretty skeptical about the list as a whole, mostly because Clinton just doesn't seem like the type or that competent. If the guy can't cover up 10 blowjobs from a girl who loves him, how could he cover up scores of political murders while being investigated by Ken Starr and several other hostile, well-funded prosecutors and committees? Starr himself ruled Vincent Foster's death a suicide, and Starr had custody of James McDougal, who died of a heart attack in prison. So unless you think Ken Starr is in on Clinton's murderous conspiracy, these deaths don't make sense. If anyone was to blame for McDougal's heart attack maybe it was Starr himself. Some of the entries are even more absurd. One version of the list includes someone who died in a one-man skiing accident. So what is Clinton supposed to have done, planted the tree 20 years earlier? And the list has grown to include random deaths popular among deluded right-wing conspiracy fans, such as Danny Casolaro (an investigative reporter who targeted George Bush much more than Clinton) and William Colby (CIA director under Nixon and Ford). Only the most tenuous of threads connect either to Clinton, while each had much more obvious (and effective) enemies. Almost all charges are laughable. On the other hand, there are some legitimately questionable deaths of people with at least some connection to Clinton. The best known would be Ron Brown, Clinton's Commerce Secretary who was under active investigation at the time of his death. The official version of his plane crash is reasonable and credible, but you don't have to be a conspiracy nut to want to know more. But then why would Clinton want one of his best friends dead while everything was rosy in the Rose Garden? Doesn't make sense either. There are also a couple of murders of people on the list that are not solved; while there's nothing particular pointing to Clinton, there are some questions worth looking at. Even in these cases, though, the "Body Count" lists twist the truth. Take the case of Mary Mahoney, a former White House Intern who was working at a Washington Starbucks when she and two co-workers were shot by unknown attackers. The case is unsolved, but Michael Rivero's version of the story claims that she was killed because Michael Isikoff (the Newsweek reporter who broke the Lewinsky story) had dropped hints about a "former White House intern whose name begins with 'M." The story is stupid anyway, but now in hindsight we know it's ridiculous. If Clinton was behind the murder, how could he have killed the wrong "M" intern? I think it's safe to say he knew which one he was having sex with, even without hints from Michael Isikoff."