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To: The Philosopher who wrote (25166)	8/29/2001 5:00:27 PM
From: Neocon	Respond to of 82486

No literate reader would have failed to get the connotation of gallantry towards women out of the precipitating remark. Dictionary duels can be fun, but they should not be wholly superfluous. In any case, I did not think the remark was sexist, in any important sense, but inane banter.......

To: The Philosopher who wrote (25166)	8/29/2001 5:05:17 PM
From: MulhollandDrive	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

I think you go with the dictionary that reflects the most common usage. >>But we still get into the issue of whether men should be more considerate toward women than toward men in any areas.<< I think you are mixing courtesy shown to a female as a part of social convention with describing a matter of redress (extending an apology) to a person. You would not describe the apology as "chivalrous" if it were given to a man. If someone owes me an apology, I do not want to receive it on the basis of some "special" treatment that is perceived to be afforded women. It should be based on a simple, honest assessment of the problem, and acknowledgement of some type of error at someone else's expense. And as far as social convention and showing consideration toward women...of course it's appreciated. But I open doors for men and women as a matter of courtesy. However, I realize that some men do this as a matter of "respect". And I promise, I would not think less of you for it. :)