To: Poet who wrote (1219 ) 8/31/2001 10:33:58 AM From: Win Smith Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 51718 Poet, I vaguely recalled the "Deteriorata" being more or less contemporary with the original "Desiderata", in terms of radio play, anyway. This sent me off to google, where I found the following:According to some reference books, "Desiderata" is still sometimes thought to have been 'found' at Old St. Paul's Church in Baltimore and to date back to 1692. It was actually written in the early 1920's by Max Ehrmann (1872-1945), a lawyer from Terre Haute, Indiana. Like most of Ehrmann's writings, "Desiderata" failed to attract much attention during his lifetime; three years after his death, his widow had it and some of his other works published as "The Poems of Max Ehrmann" (p.165). During the Lenten season of 1959 or 1960, Rev. Frederick Kates, the rector of St. Paul's Church in Baltimore, Maryland, used the poem in a collection of mimeographed devotional material for his congregation. Someone reprinting it later, separated from its original credit, erroneously described it as having been found in old St. Paul's Church dated 1692, misinterpreting the church letterhead. The year 1692 is in fact the founding date of St. Paul's Church and has nothing to do with the poem. "Desiderata" was copyrighted by Max Ehrmann on January 3, 1927 (federal copyright NO. 962402). The copyright was bequeathed to his widow, Bertha K. Ehrmann, upon his death in 1945. It was renewed in 1948 and 1954 by Bertha and bequeathed to her nephew, Richmond Wight, upon her death in 1962. In 1971, Richmond Wight assigned the copyright for value to the Crescendo Publishing Co. headed by Robert Bell. Books containing "Desiderata" are published by Crown Publishers and can be obtained through bookstores. Other permissions must be obtained from the owner of the copyright - Robert L. Bell, 427 South Shore Drive, Sarasota, Florida 34234. The written use of "Desiderata" without permission is believed to be generally covered under public domain laws because Max Ehrmann, although having secured a legal copyright and renewed same, never properly or in any way attached a copyright notice to copies of "Desiderata" which he released for public domain. This was tested when the Crescendo company instituted a lawsuit, Bell vs. Combined Registry Co. against a company which published "Desiderata" without permission. The court ruled in favor of the defendant because of Erhmann's failure to properly attach copyright notices to public domain versions of the poem. However mediums other than written may be illegal without permission as was discovered by Les Crane, who earned a Grammy award for the spoken version of "Desiderata" in 1971, and was later forced to share royalties with the late Ehrmann's family because of copyright violations. jump.net The "Deteriorata" version came out a year after the Les Crane thing, apparently: Deteriorata by National Lampoon Radio Dinner LP (1972 Blue Thumb Records) pressroom.com Credited to one Tony Hendra: nationallampoon.com I still like that fluke of the universe thing, anyway.