To: Oblomov who wrote (8040 ) 8/31/2001 5:18:10 PM From: Ilaine Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 74559 I've never understood why people resent lawyers using legalese, but don't resent mathematicians using mathese, doctors using medicalese, philosophers using philosopherese, theologians using religionese, economists using economistese, and so forth. For example, to this day, I don't really understand what philosophers mean when they say "existentialism." I mean, what does "existence is prior to essence" mean? There's a lot I don't understand about philosophy. I've only finished 5 chapters of Kant's "Critique of Pure Reason" and don't even try to understand Foucault. I really don't get what theologians mean by "dispensationalism," for one thing, and there are many other things that theologians talk about that require a dictionary. I don't understand what mathematicians mean when they say "Fourier transform," and a lot of other things. I can never remember the difference between "metabolic acidosis" and "respiratory acidosis" without looking it up. I've got some nice fat medical textbooks and medical dictionaries, and they are full, full, full of words that take many days, even weeks, of research to understand. Similarly, with legalese - I doubt very much that I could explain all the parameters and permutations of "estoppel" to you without taking days.I've got a banker's box full of law review articles and cases about estoppel. Entire books have been written about it. So it may be gibberish to you, but it's a very useful word to me. It took my first year torts professor weeks to really explain "proximate cause," and he didn't even try to the end of the semester. In fact, it wasn't until a couple of years later, when I was working on a law review casenote that I finally realized that what is or is not a "proximate cause" can be a policy decision. Likewise, it took my first year criminal procedure professor several days to really explain the interaction between "mens rea," "actus reus," and "malum in se." I don't accuse anyone of using jargon when they argue about the various features of CDMA vs. TDMA - they know what they are talking about, and I don't. I suppose I could accuse them of using jargon to differentiate themselves and signal to each other, but I really think that the words have specific meanings which they get and I don't. I don't feel uncomfortable admitting that there are many, many things about which I am ignorant. I believe that it was Socrates who said that the greatest part of wisdom is admitting what you don't know. So, I feel very wise indeed!-g-