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To: epicure who wrote (1284)	8/31/2001 8:57:58 PM
From: Poet	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 51721

I would like to mention that I took the ESP test today and didn't get the results yet. And even more frightening, I have no clue as to what my score is .

To: epicure who wrote (1284)	8/31/2001 10:00:52 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 51721

Although in OTHER people intelligence isn't as important to me as cheerfulness and responsibility Until you posted, it never occurred to me to think of those characteristics in terms of other people. After all, it is an instrument to help one understand one's own values. Interesting thought. I guess it depends on which other people we're talking about. I'd certainly prefer the supermarket checker to be cheerful rather than intelligent. And my maid to be clean, if I still had one. Yet I don't put much weight on those characteristics in me. OTOH, I prefer intelligence in my friends. Not just prefer. That's a make or break characteristic. I don't suffer stupid or insipid people well. But I don't expect courage from other people although I expect it of myself. You're right, the list would be different. I've always had just three criteria for the people I choose to be around. They need to be intelligent, together, and have spirit. Most anything else I can work around. I once had a friend who said she liked me because I didn't have any annoying habits. That was her main criterion--the absence of annoying habits. Apparently she found such people sufficiently rare. I hadn't thought about that in years and years. She may have had a point. I'm going to add that to my list. Karen

To: epicure who wrote (1284)	8/31/2001 11:48:04 PM
From: coug	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 51721

Hi X, I hope all is well.. I was directed to your thread a day or two ago, so I started to read it.. I was particulary taken by this statement, since I have thought about this for a long time.. Thank you for bringing it up.. A good topic... "My oldest daughter and I were talking in the car about what makes a good person. And so we began to discuss the qualities we each decided a good person would have." Kindingence ranks first.. (For the cookbook types that head for a dictionary, I doubt if you find it, but interestingly it got by the SI spellchecker..hmm) It is my own word, (I thought until the above, I don't know, I don't care )),. based upon "Kind intelligence".. Also including the word "kindred".. VS.. "Killingence".. which I hope the same cb types will understand.. Many examples of each.. The following: has to be always combined with first.. Ranking second is integrity.. especially "self integrity", but all integrity.. Telling the truth to thyself is so hard..Harder than doing it to thee.. And thirdly, I might add is objectivity, remove thyself "from the box" so you are able to view thyself.. I have trouble with them all.. Once I can overcome this, I will have wisdom, I am not there yet,, but I am working on it.. Take care.. m

To: epicure who wrote (1284)	9/1/2001 10:44:28 AM
From: SirRealist	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 51721

Important: First tier: Optimism Kindness Truthfulness Courage Merciful Loyalty Second tier: Strength Playful/Humor-loving Ability to think outside the box A love of learning Love & respect for the natural Those aren't ranked in individual order, other than to say that if the person has the qualities in the first tier, I'm going to appreciate the person as a good person. If they have the second tier qualities as well, I'll consider them good, well-rounded and enjoyable folks that I'd enjoy hanging* with. (*Hanging out with or hanging till death; either or both)

To: epicure who wrote (1284)	9/1/2001 11:53:33 AM
From: Rambi	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 51721

good-- that's such a funny word The meal was good. That pianist is good, but not really great. It's a good day to die. She is a good little girl. He is gone for good. Richard and I had a good workout this morning. SHould I wear my good suit? He's good for the money. Good people can be so many things. I know some good people that I really can't stand to be around for long, but they are good people by many definitions. It's just they have other traits that are unbearable-- e.g., the charitable worker who is controlling, or almost ANYone without humor. I worked with some of those this summer in that church production-- spare me from certain good people, who believe their idea of good is the only good. Personally I value Kindness Humor- in particular the ability to laugh at oneself Tolerance Integrity