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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Jagfan who wrote (176755)	9/1/2001 4:25:02 PM
From: DOUG H	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

But Zara Hester, the Belle Glade woman convicted in 1972, doesn't see why she should be punished today for something that happened so long ago. "Voting is a beautiful privilege," she said. "If they are going to take that away, they shouldn't call it freedom." Someone explain to this jagoff what a privilege is.

To: Jagfan who wrote (176755)	9/1/2001 6:24:20 PM
From: American Spirit	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

Felons aren't allowed to register to vote. Also, if they were allowed to that's the problem with the Florida State bureau run by Katherine Harris. Maybe it was an accident. Just like her erasing all her hard drives after the election.

To: Jagfan who wrote (176755)	9/1/2001 6:37:44 PM
From: American Spirit	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

You missed this in the site you just posted. "However, because of flaws in the data, it's possible that some of the 5,683 felons The Post found aren't felons at all. In rare cases, someone could have the exact name and race as a felon. And in some cases, names of people convicted only of misdemeanors made their way onto FDLE's list of felons." Actually very few of them could be the same people. Since they didn't match addresses and SS numbers any "John Brown" "Willie Smith","Joe Jones", "Jose Gonzalez", Tony Martinez" etc. would be a mistake. Of course this smear is anti-minority but it also happens blacks and latinos often have common names, especially latinos. When you take out Martinez Gonzalez, Ramirez and Mendoza there's not much left. But even it if were true that's a Florida state problem, again showing mismanagement, not deliberate corruption. Simply adds to the confusion and nothing more. On the same site it has other stories about how deliberate fraud may have cost Gore the election there. So anyway, be careful what you post if you're trying to make a point. If I were a Republican I wouldn't even bring up Florida. The more you look at it the more you realize that the counting should have been done over supervised in a bi-partisan fashion supervised by Carter and Ford and it should never have been left up to terribly partisan Bush cronies in the State House and some partisan judges. We will never have the same repect for the Supreme Court again and that alone damaged our system enormously. The fact is we will never know who really won, or if it was fair, and Harris erasing her hard drives doesn't help. Smacks up covering up guilt to me. Obviously. Justice will probably never be done now just as no one will ever really know who killed JFK, but it is altogether a sad chapter in Ameircan history which could have been avoided if the GOP had allowed the re-counts to continue in a fair and monitored fashion. Instead we now have an illegitimate president with unpopular views on very important topics who is arrogant and trying to cram his agenda down our throats. The majority of Americans should band together and try to stop him.

To: Jagfan who wrote (176755)	9/1/2001 8:36:18 PM
From: ThirdEye	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769667

The world is not flat, Jagfan. Yes, undoubtedly some felons did vote. However, can you tell us how many non-felons were illegally denied the vote because their names were on the list? Can you tell us how many states deny the vote to felons?(14) The rest restore the vote after parole is completed. Did you know it is illegal to deny the vote to a Florida citizen who completed parole for a felony in another state? Lots of those on the list. How many? Did you know that the Florida legislature has steadily increased the number of crimes designated as felonies over the past ten years? That means the number of Florida citizens who are denied the vote--for life--is increasing dramatically and the average age is dropping. Did you know Florida law provides for the right to vote to be restored if the state is petitioned after parole is completed? How many times has the state granted those petitions? Less than 50. Why? Because the state has written requirements that are so stringent as to make the chance of actual fulfillment virtually non-existent. Do you know who Database Technologies is? Did you know the CEO contributed 6 figures to the Bush campaign? And then they claim no responsibility for the errors in their dragnet. What's going on here?