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To: Rambi who wrote (1363)	9/1/2001 5:08:51 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 51722

Perhaps. But I have a really hard time not condemning people who want to condemn others. It's my weakness. Or my strength- depends on how you look at it I guess.

To: Rambi who wrote (1363)	9/1/2001 5:28:25 PM
From: cosmicforce	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 51722

Tolerance really is a passive process. It doesn't require you to do anything. In fact, the less you want to do outside of yourself, the more likely you are to be tolerant. I'm not clear on how other's behaviors can invade your moral space if you aren't cognizant of it. The questionable areas come when someone wants to expose you to behavior that you find objectionable in an incident sort of way. Consider a gay bar. I'm not affected one way or another by what goes on inside the gay bar, but if the activity inside creeps out to the street or the alley behind it, then the tolerance I'd ordinarily offer is tested. I don't want any bar in my neighborhood, gay or straight, because these establishments become the locus of incidental impacts, including public urination, fights, drunkeness, DUIs, etc. Most of life is this way, IMO. Why would I care about smoking? Not at all as long as I don't smell it or have to deal with the cigaret butts. The health consequences do have an impact upon me, indirectly. My brother is a cardiac nurse. The single most important contributor to cardiac health problems is smoking - hands down. More than drinking. More than overweight. The problem with cigarets is that there is an incidental cost to me. Other than that and the incidental effects on non-smokers, I'm not inclined to sport an opinion one way or another about it. However as a person who pays health insurance, I'd suggest that voluntarily increasing your risk of heart disease obligates you to pay higher premiums. In summary, my opinions are largely based upon my perception of the impacts of other's behavior on me or my family. Impacts on society at large are notoriously difficult to assess and because of this, movements such as religious fanaticism, fascism and authoritarianism tend to never produce the benefits they promise, yet they are willing to impose unlimited costs upon the individual in the HOPE of such benefits.