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To: deibutfeif who wrote (142638)	9/3/2001 1:27:31 AM
From: BelowTheCrowd	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

That's absolutely NOT the case with the typical consumer PC buyer. Most of them want it to work right out of the box. By and large they have difficulty configuring anything as complex as internet access without a "wizard" to help them though the process, and even then... Large buyers don't get anything pre-loaded, as they mostly have site licenses and will install over the network. The number of people who actually want to muck around with the OS for their individual machines is small and getting smaller.

To: deibutfeif who wrote (142638)	9/3/2001 11:18:53 AM
From: tcmay	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

<<I think a lot of people would dearly love to avoid the hassle-factor of reloading the OS - I certainly would, even though some people might even consider me somewhat technical. I get no pleasure out of tinkering with my PC, and that's what OS-reloading is. I would just as soon wait until the OS is preloaded, done deal - no upgrading after the fact, no "coupon" for XP when it comes out, etc.>> I've never had an experience with my PCs or Macs where I didn't have to eventually do a "clean install." Sometimes it was to try to eliminate gremlins in my system, sometimes it was when a hard disk showed a problem, sometimes it was because I put in a bigger disk, and so on. The most common reason is to "just start over": format the disk, reload the latest version of the OS from CD-ROM, re-install applications, restore documents and data files from backups. The "comes preloaded with the OS" never seemed very compelling to me: I figured I might as well know how to install it to my satisfaction anyway, then I'd know what to do when I had to install it _again_. Maybe I'm unusual. <<PS/OT: do you still post on "security/crypto" issues? where? >> Yep, on the Cypherpunks list, now 9 years old. Contact me at "tcmay@got.net" if you want subscription details. Also, the list is archived and is retrievable with Google searches. --Tim May