To: Lee Lichterman III who wrote (17563 ) 9/3/2001 3:18:52 PM From: Trading Machine Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 52237 I read a lot of your's and Gersh's posts and enjoy them for the most part. However, if either one of you think that you're not gambling just like the NAZnuts two years ago you had better wake up! I am not an accountant or an economist, or even a very good stock market trader. But the one thing I do know is that if a company has a real P/E of more than a single digit, they have some pretty wild expectations. And anyone who "lends" them money is foolish. And lets be brutally honest, unless you are a buy-and-holder of a stock that intends to keep it for a number of years (not in the single digits), you are not a LENDER, you are IMHO a speculator aka a gambler, someone who expects the paper price to go up so that he/she may sell it at more than what they paid for it. Who would be satisfied with reaping dividends once or twice a year with very little increased value to the stock? Them days are gone forever! On second thought, they may be coming back sooner than any of us expected, even Big Al.gggg I, like a lot of other people, view the stock market and trading in it as a zero sums game. In order for someone to "make money" or "win" somebody has to loose money. This true with rare exception unless the company happens to increase in worth during the period of time you are holding their stock, and consequently the value of the percentage of the company's note of indebitness to you (the share of stock) increases. So what are we really talking about here, do you really expect the company's stock that you just bought to increase in value during the few days or perhaps weeks that you hold it? Or are you just trying to sell paper to someone else that wants to speculate? I would suggest to you that a lot of people in 1998 fell into the category of gamblers. This is not a value judgement, just an observation. AG ended the game prematurely because his sense of values dictated that he do so and he had the power to do it. Thus, it was done. He, nor anyone that I know, doubted the outcome of what he did at that time. What is in doubt is how you stop it once it has started! I have read a lot of utterances from people who profess to be economists in the "know" from Ruben on down. From what I have read so far, they are all in doubt. They simply are dumbfounded as to why we haven't turned around yet. Being an ABSOLUTE novice Gambler, I don't know what it will take to turn the train, I do have confidence it will turn! Since I am a ripple/wave trader/gambler, I don't care which way it goes so long as it ripples! Having said that, I do care and feel for the thousands of people every day that loose money because of what AG has done. If he had not done it these same people may have lost more. I dunno, and I suspect when AG says his prayers at night, deep down in his heart he doesn't know either! If he and his God are the only ones who know, how can anyone else? Just another shameless opinion by someone who doesn't know either. ggg Good luck next week whether you intend to lend or gamble! Paul K.