To: Stock Farmer who wrote (103632 ) 9/3/2001 8:32:43 PM From: samim anbarcioglu Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 152472 John S. please do not mind me interjecting into your conversation with Jon and Maurice. <<But they'll take any other "better" solution to their customer's demands if they can get it. >> Not really, In this business there is something called "the standards". In order for a carrier to use a technology, it must be one of the standards accepted in the world. Until now (in 2 g) you had carriers adopting various technologies, but from now on they really cannot do that. Economies of scale will not permit it, the standard bodies will not permit it, the vendors will not make equipment for it. The 3rd generation paths of this business are established, and as a carrier, there are a few ways you can implement 3g. They are all CDMA. <<In any commodity product (which if 3 billion people get their hands on it, would include wireless), margin pressure is paramount. >> To the equipment vendors, Q simply provides one of the items in the parts list: technology. They would surely like to pay less then 5% for it, but hey, they would also like to pay nothing. Everybody would like to reduce costs. The GSM patents fees are much higher for a Chinese or Korean or a US company, to the tune of 15% (if you are not a member of the GSM cabal). But that's what patents are for. Pharma companies and Universities do it all the time. <<In any commodity product (which if 3 billion people get their hands on it, would include wireless), >> Q is not in a commodity business. The handset vendors are, and Q's presence and technology enables them to compete from an advantage point with a better product. <<No, I'm afraid that Q's interests (from a profit perspective, which is what matters to me as a shareholder) are misaligned with their customers. That's a fact.>> This is true by definition. But it is also the primary differentiating factor the carriers to be a CDMA network. I saw the CTO of Verizon speak at a meeting about the partnership, between his company and the Q. He was not just being political, or partizan. He was very, very sincere about how they depend on innovations from Q, and how fortunate his company was to have been aligned with the Q. Now, can all of this change? I'm sure it can. But it will take a better company, better engineers, better management, better patents, and about 12 years for them just to get to the point where Q is today. Sam A.