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To: samim anbarcioglu who wrote (103638)	9/3/2001 8:27:42 PM
From: alanrs	Respond to of 152472

K Chu, I really do not believe that the gov fools around with numbers While I generally agree with this, there are other ways the Govt props up employment during tough times. I call it white collar welfare, and I have seen it in the defense industry, particularly with small business or minority owned, although also with the large ones. Not that people-fat cost plus contracts or rebates of wages for certain categories of workers alone is enough to skew the numbers much, but it does go on. There was a time in the early 80's when I personally benefited from this in that I was trained to be a manufacturing engineer (despite no engineering degree) by a small electronics firm in Calif and stumbled on to the fact that the govt. was refunding around 90% of my salary (& that of the other 400 employees) to the company. Kind of like the WPA. Not entirely a bad thing, aside from that it kept me alive for a couple of years and was kind of interesting. While I did not continue on with it, the guy I trained to replace me went on to a long and successful career with Allied Signal, as a manufacturing engineer. He had been a country and western performer prior to that, and worked his way up from line assembly of the PPS-15 radar, my special responsibility, the worlds smallest radar at the time. ARS Hi George and Colonel Roberts (just on the off chance they lurk these threads-one never knows).