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To: Arrow Hd. who wrote (7303)9/4/2001 12:08:00 PM
From: art slott  Respond to of 8220
 
Thanks again Arrow, what you've said makes alot of sense and I now have a better feel for how the deal effects us(IBM).
I too think it will be a tough merger.

Art



To: Arrow Hd. who wrote (7303)9/5/2001 8:49:20 AM
From: art slott  Respond to of 8220
 
Sun Sees Rivals Gaining From HP Merger
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By Jennifer Tan

SINGAPORE (Reuters) - Hewlett-Packard's (NYSE:HWP - news) acquisition of Compaq Computer (NYSE:CPQ - news), the computer industry's biggest ever merger, may benefit rivals in the short term, a senior Sun Microsystems executive said on Wednesday.

``There will be at least 12 to 18 months of confusion at the merged entity and Dell (Nasdaq:DELL - news) has the opportunity to capture more market share,'' said Lionel Lim, Sun Micro's managing director for South Asia, referring to the world's current number one personal computer maker.

HP is taking over Compaq in a $20.3 billion stock deal as the two industry giants seek to cope with the protracted downturn in computer sales. The combined entity would have $87.4 billion in revenues, rivaling industry leader IBM (NYSE:IBM - news).

``Their customers now have to figure out what to do (during the merger), and it will be a very trying period of uncertainty for them -- I see them giving up,'' Lim told a news conference.

And customers will be among the biggest losers in this deal.

``They bought PCs on the assumption that prices will fall due to stiff competition but now, it's getting to the point of a cartel-like industry and in this situation, customers don't benefit,'' he said. ``It looks like the fierce PC price war will be controlled.''

A price war has been raging among leading PC makers, with Dell taking the lead. The company's direct-sales model allows it to pass on lower component prices to consumers and slash prices to seize market share.

``What this (merged) company is going to go through is very gut-wrenching indigestion,'' Lim said.

``There are many (technological) architectures that have to be rationalized, a lot of investments that were put into the industry in the past will have to be written off, and we're going to see a loss of many good employees and talent.''

Analysts have said HP-Compaq would face some serious challenges in creating coherent strategies for their server and storage architectures, operating systems and service businesses.

``With the uncertainty that will dog the merger in the near term, I would expect competitors to benefit and market share would go to Sun, IBM and Dell,'' Davina Yeo, International Data Corp Asia Pacific research manager told Reuters.



To: Arrow Hd. who wrote (7303)9/5/2001 10:37:40 AM
From: art slott  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 8220
 
SmartMoney.com - Stock Watch
A Bad Deal All Around
By Monica Rivituso

INVESTORS HOPING that juicy merger talk between two computer-hardware titans might inject some life into the moribund PC sector will have to wait a little longer. Seems Hewlett-Packard's (NYSE:HWP - news) proposed $25 billion takeover of Compaq Computer (NYSE:CPQ - news) just isn't tantalizing enough — to put it mildly.
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Computer-hardware makers, which have been suffering amid slower corporate and consumer sales for the last year, have been trying to remake themselves into providers of ``total solutions'' of hardware, software and services, much in the way that IBM (NYSE:IBM - news) revamped its business into the juggernaut it is today. A merger between H-P and Compaq would create a massive company that would be the world's No. 1 seller of PCs, and the second largest in terms of overall information technology behind IBM.

But while a combined H-P and Compaq would create an $87 billion PC, server and printing behemoth, plenty of concerns surrounding this megamerger resonated throughout the market Tuesday. Hewlett and Compaq shares plummeted 18.7% and 10.3%, respectively.

The agreement, which was approved unanimously by both companies' boards, calls for Compaq shareholders to receive 0.6325 of a newly issued H-P share for each Compaq share. As of Friday, the deal was valued at $25 billion — a mere 19% premium to Compaq shareholders and a far cry below the average 41.7% premium for U.S. deals seen this year, according to Thomson Financial Securities Data. But by the end of trading on Tuesday, the deal was valued at just $21 billion after the pounding of H-P's shares, wiping out almost all of the premium.

Why the thrashing? While the merger would surely create a giant computer-hardware outfit, says Roger Kay, director of client computing at market research firm IDC, H-P and Compaq's product portfolios are too similar. Both have big presences in the consumer market — especially in the U.S. — and a similar amount of international presence, he explains. Gartner Dataquest analyst Todd Kort agrees, noting that because there's so much overlap, the main benefit to the merger would be the elimination of overhead and personnel.

As for more substantial strategic benefits from the merger, they're harder to see. Neither company is particularly strong in services or software, the higher-margin businesses that were integral in transforming Big Blue into the profitable, revenue-growing monster it's been of late. ``To me, it seems like a merger where one plus one equals about 1.5,'' says Kort. ``This doesn't really help either company all that much because they're still way behind IBM as a combined entity in terms of software and services.''

They've been roughed up in the hardware business as well, amid an industrywide slump. Both have watched revenues and profits slip. Compaq lost its title as No. 1 seller of PCs to direct-seller Dell Computer (NASDAQ:DELL - news) in the first quarter, after it posted flat growth next to Dell's 34% jump in unit shipments. H-P Chief Executive Carly Fiorina, meanwhile, has come under fire for the company's poor performance; a merger now would only create another challenge. ``You've got two companies that have not been managing their businesses very well, [that have been] losing share and [are] fighting for direction,'' says analyst Brett Miller, who covers Compaq for A.G. Edwards. ``And now you're going to put them together?''

Adding to the uncertainty: major integration risk. H-P has done little in the way of large-scale acquisitions, while Compaq's last biggie, Digital Equipment, has been deemed a disaster by industry watchers. The aim of that $9.6 billion 1998 deal in was to provide Compaq with a much-needed services strategy. But it took three long years for Compaq to announce formally that it would shift from being a hardware maker to a company that provides hardware, software and service packages to customers. That's a lot of plotting — or plodding.

Now, industry watchers expect a fair amount of indigestion to result from the H-P/Compaq deal. Consider that IBM needed five years to make the internal changes necessary to become a services-oriented organization, notes Miller. Fully integrating H-P and Compaq and realizing the expected $2.5 billion in annual cost savings will require plenty of cuts in product lines, personnel and overlapping departments like finance and marketing. IDC's Kay says he wouldn't be surprised if the headcount, which now totals more than 145,000 world-wide, were trimmed by 40,000, or 27.6%.

``Those companies will be tangled up in their underwear for something like two years, trying to straighten out what product lines and what research-and-development functions they're going to keep and merge and how they're going to do that,'' says Kay. ``Not to mention the executive shakeout as various large egos contend for a smaller number of spots.''

The two or three transitional years that H-P and Compaq are facing as they try to merge their operations will likely be tough going. And they could create a tremendous window of opportunity for Dell to gain market share, analysts say. Moreover, even after the new tech giant compresses its businesses into one, it will still be, predominantly, a hardware company. That means it remains ``dead in the sights of Dell,'' according to Gartner's Kort. Perhaps investors agree with that assertion; Dell shares were one of the bright spots in tech on Tuesday, rising 4%.

But aside from Dell, a merger of this size doesn't bode well for the overall industry, says Stephen Baker, an analyst at market research firm NPD Intelect. Eliminating redundancies in marketing and promotion will only mean less money overall will be thrown at coaxing consumers to buy new PCs. And the fact is, PCs still drive overall information-technology spending, Baker says. Any easing up on the PC promotion and marketing front could further slow computer sales, which in turn will ripple through the IT food chain to retailers, distributors, semiconductor makers and semiconductor-equipment companies.

In the end, H-P and Compaq raised more questions than spirits with this proposed merger. ``I don't have extremely high hopes for this merger,'' says Gartner's Kort. ``I think it's going to be painful. And five years from now, I think people will be questioning what it got everybody.''

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To: Arrow Hd. who wrote (7303)9/9/2001 2:22:42 PM
From: Kirk ©  Respond to of 8220
 
Nice analysis!
Thanks
Kirk out