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Politics : Right Wing Extremist Thread -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Lane3 who wrote (15603)9/4/2001 1:15:41 PM
From: dave rose  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 59480
 
<<<Then, given a choice between 2 and 3, I strongly prefer 2. Don't you?>>

I refuse to choose between death by hanging or firing squad.
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regards



To: Lane3 who wrote (15603)9/4/2001 11:37:17 PM
From: Bilow  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 59480
 
Hi kholt; Re minimum wage.

I'm no longer the very radical right winger I once was, but I still can't see any reason for keeping the national minimum wage law around.

The worst part about the minimum wage is their national application. In some parts of the country the minimum wage is so low, compared to the cost of living, or to the scarcity of labor, as to have no effect whatsoever on the local wage rate. In other parts of the country, the minimum wage is well in excess of most people's hourly wage. For example, see:
uark.edu

While those rural areas are not exactly economic powerhouses, it's nevertheless possible to have a very pleasant life on a minimum wage income. Rents are much much cheaper than in the big city, most people grow some of their own food, and there aren't a lot of Starbucks around to spend $10 on a coffee at, even if you had the cash.

For that reason, as well as a general preference for state's rights, I think the national minimum wage should be abolished. I think it should strictly be a local law, and it should take into account local conditions, if it is in law at all.

-- Carl



To: Lane3 who wrote (15603)9/5/2001 7:17:13 AM
From: average joe  Respond to of 59480
 
So what do we do about this? 1)We can discontinue the minimum wage laws, let the market set wages, and let nature take its course. 2)We can establish a minimum wage at the risk of losing some jobs and some businesses. 3) We can make direct welfare payments to the working poor.

I would far rather see nature take its course than someone playing God take her course. This is not to say I am against soup kitchens and the like for the really poor. I think the Red Cross and other charities do an admirable job.

The only thing that gives a person real value and dignity is their job. Putting them on the dole until their last day is not what your country is about. All the womb to the tomb programs have failed miserably.

Number one would be my first choice. I guess it would be yours, too. The people have consistently indicated that they don't have the stomach for that and they expect government to deal with it. Then, given a choice between 2 and 3, I strongly prefer 2. Don't you?

Of course #2 it worked so well in the former Soviet Union, Socialist Britain and Sweden. If people with funny sounding accents do it, it must be really cool, right?? They are so hard to understand, they must be really really smart...

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